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Tired of being called a sinner?

J Bryson

J Bryson

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Plenty of people have died as Atheists, including many who served their countries in the foxholes of which you speak.
 
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challupa

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Dirty Penguin said:
Well, I'm an atheist so I don't believe in gods. I view God of the bible/quran this way...If he exist then everything is submitting to his will. God is said to have created the universe so he/it exist outside of space and time thus created the universe, space and time. God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. These attributes means that it is his design for everything to be the way that it is. Whatever you did, do or don't do this God already knows and knew because this is how he created it. So with this in mind..the books that everyone profess salvation from, and what must be done in order to be in God's favour is futile.

I'm an atheist because I find the whole of religious dogmatic concepts to be uneeded. If this god is as described then what would be the point in creating any of this and placing the requirements on man as laid out in the book if he fully knows the out come of his creation. For me there are no gods thus I need no saviour. I can only be responsible for me. Also take note that we are being given the christian/judeo/islamic points of view when it comes to God and salvation but there are other faiths on the planet that have their own idea of what life is and how to live it. How do we validate or invalidate one over the other. Comparing the big three there are some striking differences and within each of the big three there are different sects with even more differences professing how it should be. Religion is man made....
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Yes I think that is what makes it hard for anyone who is trying to figure it all out. I was raised a Christian I guess, became an athiest at about 14 and only recently can say I just don't know for sure. Thanks for your reply.:)
 
McBell

McBell

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Know the Truth said:
How would you know that? You would be amazed what people confess when their gig is up.
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I agree.
But you never hear about the people who claimed to be Christian most if not all their lives admitting on their death bed that they were actually atheists.

And before you say that there are none, I know of three.
 
J Bryson

J Bryson

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Know the Truth said:
How would you know that? You would be amazed what people confess when their gig is up.
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Some shout "Allah Akbar!". Others detach themselves in hopes of union with a Hindu or Buddhist version of the Godhead. I see no reason why a committed Atheist would be more frivolous with his or her beliefs.

Here's an interesting link for you: Atheists in Foxholes
 
Know the Truth

Know the Truth

Member
J Bryson said:
Some shout "Allah Akbar!". Others detach themselves in hopes of union with a Hindu or Buddhist version of the Godhead. I see no reason why a committed Atheist would be more frivolous with his or her beliefs.

Here's an interesting link for you: Atheists in Foxholes
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I guess its the underlying phenomenon, rather than something that happens 100% of the time, eh?
 
J Bryson

J Bryson

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Mestemia said:
I suspect it is because there are several idiots who believe that atheists are only calling themselves atheists, but secretly they are theists.
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Yeah. I mean, I'm not an Atheist, but it seems arrogant to assume that one knows what is in the heart of another.
 
Know the Truth

Know the Truth

Member
J Bryson said:
Yeah. I mean, I'm not an Atheist, but it seems arrogant to assume that one knows what is in the heart of another.
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Sorry to blow your cover, but there are no atheists. You know there is a moral God. It is obvious just by the world He has created. It SHOUTS that there is a Designer. You simply "supress the truth in unrighteousness," as Paul, the former Christian hunter so eloquently stated it. If you really admitted God was there, you would have to do something about it (unless you had lost ALL integrity), AND YOU DONT WANT TO ALLIGN YOUR LIFE WITH A MORAL GOD! Therefore He doesn't exist! You can go to the bank on that statement.
 
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J Bryson

J Bryson

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Know the Truth said:
Sorry to blow your cover, but there are no atheists. You know there is a moral God. It is obvious just by the world He has created. It SHOUTS that there is a Designer. You simply "supress the truth in unrighteousness," as Paul, the former Christian hunter so eloquently stated it. If you really admitted God was there, you would have to do something about it (unless you had lost ALL integrity), AND YOU DONT WANT TO ALLIGN YOUR LIFE WITH A MORAL GOD! Therefore He doesn't exist! You can go to the bank on that statement.
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Well, see, that's kind of my point. You don't know what's in my heart. You simply don't. You don't know if I believe in God or not, you don't know how I see God if I do believe, and yet you presume that you do.

God, if God exists in the form that you describe, knows my heart. To say that you know what is in my heart is to say that you know what is only to be known by me and God. That isn't simple arrogance. That's blasphemy.
 
Know the Truth

Know the Truth

Member
J Bryson said:
Well, see, that's kind of my point. You don't know what's in my heart. You simply don't. You don't know if I believe in God or not, you don't know how I see God if I do believe, and yet you presume that you do.

God, if God exists in the form that you describe, knows my heart. To say that you know what is in my heart is to say that you know what is only to be known by me and God. That isn't simple arrogance. That's blasphemy.
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The problem is, all I am doing is repeating what God said a long time ago. If it was my opinion it would be worth about as much as yours! But it is God's eternal truth, written for all ages. Read Romans 1. Actually the book of Romans is probably the most profound piece of writing in existence.
 
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McBell

McBell

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Know the Truth said:
The problem is, all I am doing is repeating what God said a long time ago.
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I agree.
Perhaps it would help if you upgraded to what God says now...

Know the Truth said:
If it was my opinion it would be worth about as much as yours!
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It is merely your opinion.
You just think you speak for God.
I do not think you speak for God.
But then, that is merely my opinion being different than your opinion.

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But it is God's eternal truth, written for all ages.
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I do not know why you continue to claim that your particular deity is better than any other deity.
Is it to satisfy your deities insecurities?

Know the Truth said:
Read Romans 1. Actually the book of Romans is probably the most profound piece of writing in existence.
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Opinions differ.
 
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