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TotD: Was the serpent in Genesis Satan?
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Rakhel
Well-Known Member
Why??
outhouse
Atheistically
there was a pretty long thread on this done a few months back if you search.
It is not written in any scripture from that time period nor eluded to that the snake is or ever was satan.
CDWolfe
Progressive Deist
No where in the Bible does it state that it was Satan. It is merely assumed by many to be Satan.
I think the connection is stated in a cpl of places in the NT. Only place I know of for sure is in Revelation 20:2
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.
As far as the OT goes, if you take it all at face value the serpent couldn't possibly be Satan: in Genesis the serpent is condemned to crawl on it's belly. Later in Job we find Satan "going to and fro on the earth, and (from) walking up and down upon it.” Job.1:7 (KJV)
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
It does state in Revelations that Satan was the "serpent of old", so it isn't really a stretch to connect that with the serpent in Genesis. However, this only works if you believe the bible is one book, by one author. If you believe it is a collection of different stories and books, then it is pretty clear that the serpent in Genesis is not Satan.
With that said....
If you are Christian, yes, the serpent is clearly Satan.
If you are not Christian, no, the serpent is clearly not Satan.
With that said....
If you are Christian, yes, the serpent is clearly Satan.
If you are not Christian, no, the serpent is clearly not Satan.
:snoopy:
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Genesis 3:1 (KJV)
Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of the tree of the garden?
"beast of the field" doesn't sound like the character that Satan is usually portrayed as.
Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of the tree of the garden?
"beast of the field" doesn't sound like the character that Satan is usually portrayed as.
CDWolfe
Progressive Deist
And did you know that if you put two serpints together you'll have a serquart?
(sorry, couldn't resist
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And did you know that if you put two serpints together you'll have a serquart?
(sorry, couldn't resist
The "serpint" was the planet Venus?
Im gonna blame my phone. Well that's the latin word. The original hebrew espaces me. Lucifer is title/archtype meaning bearer of light.
gnostic
The Lost One
lti oj said:
Sorry, but where does it say that the serpent is lucifer? Sources, please.
And to answer the OP:
If you speaking about many Christians, then it would be "yes". Some would disagree.
But since the Genesis in Old Testament, is actually one of the scriptures of Judaism (Hebrew Scriptures, Tanakh, Torah), then if you were to ask the Jews, they would say "no".
As for me, and me being agnostic, I would say "no" too. There absolutely no connection between Satan and the serpent in the OT or Hebrew scriptures.
quagmire said:
The thing is, only someone delusional would take anything written any part of Revelation seriously and literally, because it was written by someone who is clearly insane.
How many times have Christians have interpret any passage of Revelation as being "prophetic", only to discovered that their predictions were proven wrong? More than I care to know, that's for sure.
No that's not actually the thing. That's an irrelevant and off-topic observation.
Twig pentagram
High Priest
I agree with those who think the serpent in Genesis doesn't represent
satan, because IMHO the Bible never clearly states that it does.
satan, because IMHO the Bible never clearly states that it does.