Transgenderism

[Jose Fly]

That's because they engage in group think instigated by their leaders. They need to think for themselves.

That's why there's no Q&A session immediately following a sermon. It's why I was chastised for "asking too many questions" as a kid. I believe it was H.L. Mencken who noted during the Scopes trial that, while they'll tolerate a Muslim, Jew, or Hindu, the one thing they won't tolerate is doubt.

 

[Jose Fly]

I don't doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised to discover it can have a maladaptive effect on brain formation and structures.
I've even had a few of these lingering "cravings," these thoughts of maybe it was a mistake and with new knowledge and insights it wouldn't be what it was again. But it doesn't go further than that, and reminds me of the occasional craving for nicotine I still sometimes get.

Oh sure, I can understand the allure of being in a tight social group and the benefits it provides. Throw in things like the sense of certainty and comfort during trying times, and yeah....it can be difficult to give all that up.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Oh sure, I can understand the allure of being in a tight social group and the benefits it provides. Throw in things like the sense of certainty and comfort during trying times, and yeah....it can be difficult to give all that up.

It's not the good but the bad. It's why I call it a craving and compare it to fiending for nicotine. Smoking is actually very pleasing and soothing. But there's very bad things underneath it all.

 

[Jose Fly]

It's not the good but the bad. It's why I call it a craving and compare it to fiending for nicotine. Smoking is actually very pleasing and soothing. But there's very bad things underneath it all.

Right....the good and the bad go hand-in-hand.

 

[Ella S.]

You’re living in a dream world if you think the neurological markers used are going to cleanly and perfectly support the claimed identities of every trans person. What happens when someone born female with a “female brain” insists that they are male? That is definitely going to be a real life example.

You can place me in your anti category all you want in order to write off my points and feel better about yourself. Still, untruths do nobody any good in the long run especially people with gender dysphoria who are going to fall in the category that I mentioned and in which YOU deny.

Fascinating. Every sentence you just replied with was nothing but empty rhetoric. I'll take that as a sign you have nothing of real substance left to add.

Which is unsurprising, because facts and logic beat lies and prejudice every time in rational discourse.

 

[Ella S.]

Total nonsense. I've known intersex people. They were not transgender. The term is quickly becoming meaningless with almost everyone under the sun shoehorned into it. It's becoming like "people of color and white people".

If you think you're somehow going to be viewed by transphobes as more legitimate by attacking every trans person with a different experience than you, including using definitions of "transgender" nobody else uses, then you're wrong. They hate you just as much as they hate intersex people, non-binary people, and people who transition based on gender euphoria.

Your perspective is unique, but not supreme.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

You’re living in a dream world if you think the neurological markers used are going to cleanly and perfectly support the claimed identities of every trans person. What happens when someone born female with a “female brain” insists that they are male? That is definitely going to be a real life example.

You can place me in your anti category all you want in order to write off my points and feel better about yourself. Still, untruths do nobody any good in the long run especially people with gender dysphoria who are going to fall in the category that I mentioned and in which YOU deny.

What is gender dystopia to you?
I mean is it a actual dysfunction because there are no difference between gender and sex or what?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

If you think you're somehow going to be viewed by transphobes as more legitimate by attacking every trans person with a different experience than you, including using definitions of "transgender" nobody else uses, then you're wrong. They hate you just as much as they hate intersex people, non-binary people, and people who transition based on gender euphoria.

Your perspective is unique, but not supreme.

Now I am confused. As far as I can tell intersex for at least a subset of the cases don't imply being trans. But maybe I am looking the wrong places as the Internet.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Fascinating. Every sentence you just replied with was nothing but empty rhetoric. I'll take that as a sign you have nothing of real substance left to add.

Which is unsurprising, because facts and logic beat lies and prejudice every time in rational discourse.

Strong projection right here. Impressive actually.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Strong projection right here. Impressive actually.

Just answer my question. Is there a difference between sex and gender in some cases?

 

[Ella S.]

Now I am confused. As far as I can tell intersex for at least a subset of the cases don't imply being trans. But maybe I am looking the wrong places as the Internet.

It doesn't necessarily. "A transgender person (often abbreviated to trans person) is someone whose gender identity or gender expression does not correspond with the sex they were assigned at birth." So the example I gave was an example of a transgender intersex person, but it does not apply to all intersex people.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Just answer my question. Is there a difference between sex and gender in some cases?

Sex is generally understood as the biological imposition of gender. However, one can later choose (agency) to either dis-identify or identify with their sex based gender.

Already addressed that.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

What happens when someone born female with a “female brain” insists that they are male? That is definitely going to be a real life example.

Now, anybody care to address my question?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Already addressed that.

Thanks. Yeah, we don't agree.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Now, anybody care to address my question?

Well, ask God in the end. That is your truth as far as I can tell. I am done for now.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Well, ask God in the end. That is your truth as far as I can tell. I am done for now.

Veer.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Veer.

English is not my first language.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

English is not my first language.

No problem. The dialogue is no longer productive anyway.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No problem. The dialogue is no longer productive anyway.

Yeah, we can't agree because we have a different understanding of the world in this case.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

In light of the scriptures I think it’s clear that “transgenderism” is a satanic attack upon God’s creation of male and female, human personhood, biological reality, and truth. A phenomenon especially dangerous to women and children. I’m interested in perspectives of other Christians.


“And because of the subjectivity of gender identity, Hasson said the transgender movement poses a dire threat to women in particular.

“Gender identity is a feeling,” she explained. “It’s completely subjective — can’t test for it, can’t prove it, it’s got to be declared. “



“There's decades of literature showing overwhelming probability in a gender dysphoric minor of underlying health problems of adverse childhood experiences, bad family dynamics and a way over-representation of autism spectrum dysphoria, and that these all predate the gender dysphoria,” Van Mol explained.

According to recent data, the number of minors in America receiving a diagnosis of gender dysphoria tripled from 2017 to 2021, with more than 42,000 receiving the diagnosis in 2021. On the social media platform TikTok, which is especially popular among younger people, the hashtag “trans” has logged 50.2 billion views, nearly doubling within the space of a year.”

“So instead of saying people should seek the truth, now people say you should ‘speak your truth,” he explained. “So if words have no relation to reality, then words like ‘male’ and ‘female’ don’t matter anymore.””

“Lahl echoed that sentiment, stating her conviction — and perhaps summing up the battle itself — that transgenderism isn’t simply a political or cultural attack but one that is satanic in its origins.

“I don't believe in transgenderism,” she said. “I think that’s a lie from the devil.””

Excepts from:

'Unmasking Gender Ideology' panel warns 'women are going to lose' rights if trans ideologues win

What is a human being And what does it mean to be a human being Those were the central questions considered at The Christian Post s conference, Unmasking Gender Ideology Protecting Children,

www.christianpost.com

If you were having horrible pains in your chest and having trouble breathing, would you turn to scripture for help, or call 911 and hope to get to a hospital quickly? If you suddenly lost the vision in one eye, would you pluck it out, as the Bible suggests, or look for medical help?

I am saddened that your post expresses both deep ignorance and deep uncaring about a very human problem, and I am sure that if you were to reflect carefully on that, you might come to see it for yourself as very unlike what Christ tried to teach you.

Why don't you visit a site where the people who live with this issue discuss it freely? Understanding Transgender People: The Basics

Or the American Psychological Association, where they can teach you some basic facts? Answers to your questions about transgender people, gender identity, and gender expression