Trump Assassination Attempt

[anotherneil]

Why believe that was real?

Well, you can ask this about anything; I'm simply responding to it with my own sentiment, not any action.

It doesn't change or have any impact on my actions, as in who I'll vote for or won't vote for.

Neither this nor the assassination attempt on Trump are going to affect my decision on who I'm going to vote for.

I voted for Trump in the past 2 elections; prior to that I voted 3rd/independent party with the exception of the 1st time I voted for POTUS.

I'd much rather vote for someone like Ron Paul, Justin Amash, Thomas Massie, and maybe Rand Paul, over Donald Trump.

I voted for Trump in the past because he seemed to be right over the target (figuratively/politically), even though he's not a hard-core libertarian; I basically saw him as an outsider and not a member of the political establishment elites & cronies inside the beltway.

When I first heard that Trump was running for 2016, I was mildly annoyed at the news & at first when the media came out trying to smear him (on both sides of the political spectrum), I bought the disinformation. It wasn't until after I actually listened to unedited footage of what he actually said or did that I realized that the media was distorting the facts about that; this along with him refusing to pledge to support whoever the GOP 2016 primary is no matter what he thinks of them made me start liking Trump.

If someone like this managed to make their way to this point that Trump did as a Democrat, I'd probably vote for them for that type of reason.

Frankly with this Gaza Genocide situation right now, Trump's on thin ice for my vote for him; I can't determine where he stands on that because he's being rather vague about it.

Part of what may influence whether or not I vote for Trump will be determined by who he picks for his VP candidate; if he picks one of these rabidly pro-Israel/anti-Palestinian pieces of garbage like Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Marco Rubio, or Tom Cotton, who can't seem to distinguish or make up their mind about whether their loyalty is to the US, or any foreign entity (like Israel), then that will pretty much make me go back to voting 3rd/independent party. I think Vivek as his VP pick would be the only thing that would practically guarantee my vote for Trump.

I can see that to be much more likely to be a false Republican claim than an actual event.

Why?

Lies like that should make you want to vote Democratic.

First you ask me why believe that was real, which I consider a valid question with a fair point, but now you're assuming it's a lie; no points for you, for this one.

Even if it was a lie, that in no way would influence me to vote for a Democrat, even if I didn't consider it to be an awful political party much worse than the GOP.

 

[Kathryn]

Probably not all the answers, and as civilians who are at risk, it may offer a greater sense of security not to. I don't blame you being fine with that, but there's no way a follow up effort and digging won't ensue over this.

You're right about all that.

Regardless of a plot or not, I think Trump just won.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, you can ask this about anything; I'm simply responding to it with my own sentiment, not any action.

It doesn't change or have any impact on my actions, as in who I'll vote for or won't vote for.

Neither this nor the assassination attempt on Trump are going to affect my decision on who I'm going to vote for.

I voted for Trump in the past 2 elections; prior to that I voted 3rd/independent party with the exception of the 1st time I voted for POTUS.

I'd much rather vote for someone like Ron Paul, Justin Amash, Thomas Massie, and maybe Rand Paul, over Donald Trump.

I voted for Trump in the past because he seemed to be right over the target (figuratively/politically), even though he's not a hard-core libertarian; I basically saw him as an outsider and not a member of the political establishment elites & cronies inside the beltway.

When I first heard that Trump was running for 2016, I was mildly annoyed at the news & at first when the media came out trying to smear him (on both sides of the political spectrum), I bought the disinformation. It wasn't until after I actually listened to unedited footage of what he actually said or did that I realized that the media was distorting the facts about that; this along with him refusing to pledge to support whoever the GOP 2016 primary is no matter what he thinks of them made me start liking Trump.

If someone like this managed to make their way to this point that Trump did as a Democrat, I'd probably vote for them for that type of reason.

Frankly with this Gaza Genocide situation right now, Trump's on thin ice for my vote for him; I can't determine where he stands on that because he's being rather vague about it.

Part of what may influence whether or not I vote for Trump will be determined by who he picks for his VP candidate; if he picks one of these rabidly pro-Israel/anti-Palestinian pieces of garbage like Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Marco Rubio, or Tom Cotton, who can't seem to distinguish or make up their mind about whether their loyalty is to the US, or any foreign entity (like Israel), then that will pretty much make me go back to voting 3rd/independent party. I think Vivek as his VP pick would be the only thing that would practically guarantee my vote for Trump.

Anyone that votes for Trump has serious problems understanding politics and what is good for the country. He deals out candy and lies. You should not let yourself be fooled.

Why?

Because right now, without a doubt, it is the Republican party that is lacking in morals.

First you ask me why believe that was real, which I consider a valid question with a fair point, but now you're assuming it's a lie; no points for you, for this one.

Even if it was a lie, that in no way would influence me to vote for a Democrat, even if I didn't consider it to be an awful political party much worse than the GOP.

No, not "assuming". My conclusion was draw upon the actions of both parties recently.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I hope he dosent step down and for what I'm seeing so far he won't step down and for a good reason if recent events don't already illustrate it. I'm pretty sure people know who the bad guys are now.

I'll remember this next time you want to cry about the nany state and how California and New York aren't free because you have to pay for your shopping bags.
You are hoping Trump violates the Constitutions and spits on our elections again, worse than the last time amd successfully bypassing constitutional law to keep himself in office.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I hope he dosent step down and for what I'm seeing so far he won't step down and for a good reason if recent events don't already illustrate it. I'm pretty sure people know who the bad guys are now.

I look forward to Trump and his inauguration in January provided another leftest assassin isn't already in the wings preparing something.

I trust the Secret Service is cognizant and vigilant enough now to prevent that from happening in the near future.

Also, fascists often die violently. Julius Ceasar was literally and figuratively stabbed in the back. Hitler died in a bunker. Mussalini (one of the asides from edgelord teens to say fascism wins) got to say hello to a violent mob who told him bye. Trump too is a fascist. He leads Dominionists. Of course someone tried to kill him.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'll remember this next time you want to cry about the nany state and how California and New York aren't free because you have to pay for your shopping bags.
You are hoping Trump violates the Constitutions and spits on our elections again, worse than the last time amd successfully bypassing constitutional law to keep himself in office.

Oh my incorrigible one track minded nemesis. Never ever leaving that one single solitary rail you ride.

How many countless times do I have to remind you it's not about the shopping bags themselves. It's clearly going to take more countless times as well to correct you on that matter.

If you are so inclined, you can always provide the actual laws that violate the constitution and then explain why Trump isn't charged for violating the Constitution, unlike other political elements that have collectively attacked the constitution on a regular and consistent basis.

I would think that's best left for another thread though.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Also, fascists often die violently. Julius Ceasar was literally and figuratively stabbed in the back. Hitler died in a bunker. Mussalini (one of the asides from edgelord teens to say fascism wins) got to say hello to a violent mob who told him bye. Trump too is a fascist. He leads Dominionists. Of course someone tried to kill him.

Well all you have to do is show me where anybody in the right wing anywhere yelled fascism wins, unlike the solid proof that I can provide that socialism wins in the modern day voiced by a particular left-wing party member and you got a point.

I'll continue to await for that particular piece of evidence to arrive. In the meantime I'll just put the kettle on.

 

[We Never Know]

Did the secret service drop the ball?

Just saw on the news special that people on they ground saw and pointed out the shooter on the roof. Even saying he had a gun.
The secret service sniper located him but couldn't tell if he was a threat or not, seconds later the shooter started shooting and the sniper took him out.

1. If the secret service sniper(who had a big scope) could see him why couldn't they see his weapon?
2. How did people on the ground spot him before the secret service who were elevated on other roofs? They should have easily spotted him.
3. Why was a building that close left unmanned?

Here is the shooter on the roof before the shooting. Weapon in clear view.
Its even on video

Thomas Matthew Crooks: What we know about Donald Trump's attacker - BBC News

The 20-year-old registered Republican purchased ammunition the day of the rally, authorities say.

www.bbc.com

On another note the newest thing I've been reading online is the secret service director is Kimberly Cheatle, appointed by Biden back in 2022. Some people are saying it was a purposely failed protection because she is a dem who was appointed by Biden.

Its sad all the blame and BS being thrown around.

 

[Spice]

Its sad all the blame and BS being thrown around.

Most definitely!

 

[crossfire]

Did the secret service screw up?

Just saw on the news special that people on they ground saw and pointed out the shooter on the roof. Even saying he had a gun.
The secret service sniper located him but couldn't tell if he was a threat or not, seconds later the shooter started shooting and the sniper took him out.

1. If the secret service sniper(who had a big scope) could see him why couldn't they see his weapon?
2. How did people on the ground spot him before the secret service who were elevated on other roofs? They should have easily spotted him.
3. Why was a building that close left unmanned?

Here is the shooter on the roof before the shooting. Weapon in clear view.
Its even on video

Thomas Matthew Crooks: What we know about Donald Trump's attacker - BBC News

The 20-year-old registered Republican purchased ammunition the day of the rally, authorities say.

www.bbc.com

View attachment 94183

On another note the newest thing I've been reading online is the secret service director is Kimberly Cheatle, appointed by Biden back in 2022. Some people are saying it was a purposely failed protection because she is a dem who was appointed by Biden.

Its sad all the blame and BS being thrown around.

The Secret Service was planning for the RNC andDNC conventions. Here is Kimberly Cheatle with George Stephanopoulos on July 7, 2024.

Video Kim Cheatle on DNC, RNC: ‘Overall threat environment has constantly been evolving’

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos interviews U.S. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle on “This Week.”

abcnews.go.com

 

[We Never Know]

The Secret Service was planning for the RNC andDNC conventions. Here is Kimberly Cheatle with George Stephanopoulos on July 7, 2024.

Video Kim Cheatle on DNC, RNC: ‘Overall threat environment has constantly been evolving’

ABC News' George Stephanopoulos interviews U.S. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle on “This Week.”

abcnews.go.com

She admits the overall threat environment has been constantly evolving. IMO that should warrant more protection including at rallies.

I was hoping she would elaborate more about the question of "if Trump goes to jail"

 

[Watchmen]

Did the secret service drop the ball?

Just saw on the news special that people on they ground saw and pointed out the shooter on the roof. Even saying he had a gun.
The secret service sniper located him but couldn't tell if he was a threat or not, seconds later the shooter started shooting and the sniper took him out.

1. If the secret service sniper(who had a big scope) could see him why couldn't they see his weapon?
2. How did people on the ground spot him before the secret service who were elevated on other roofs? They should have easily spotted him.
3. Why was a building that close left unmanned?

Here is the shooter on the roof before the shooting. Weapon in clear view.
Its even on video

Thomas Matthew Crooks: What we know about Donald Trump's attacker - BBC News

The 20-year-old registered Republican purchased ammunition the day of the rally, authorities say.

www.bbc.com

View attachment 94183

On another note the newest thing I've been reading online is the secret service director is Kimberly Cheatle, appointed by Biden back in 2022. Some people are saying it was a purposely failed protection because she is a dem who was appointed by Biden.

Its sad all the blame and BS being thrown around.

Let’s take a break from Monday morning quarterbacking and let the FBI investigate.

 

[sayak83]

The greatest threat to the lives of US citizens have never been Islamic terrorists or illegal immigrants. The greatest threat has been other psychologically disturbed US citizens with guns.
Does anyone disagree?

 

[McBell]

Let’s take a break from Monday morning quarterbacking and let the FBI investigate.

there is no "Monday morning quarterbacking" when it comes to the severe lack of security at this event.

The fact of the matter is that the Secret Service dropped the ball.
Big Time.

 

[McBell]

The greatest threat to the lives of US citizens have never been Islamic terrorists or illegal immigrants. The greatest threat has been other psychologically disturbed US citizens with guns.
Does anyone disagree?

Yes.
The mishandling of the COVID comes to mind really quick.
Not to mention the assaults on reproductive rights.

 

[sayak83]

Yes.
The mishandling of the COVID comes to mind really quick.
Not to mention the assaults on reproductive rights.

Umm..I was talking about direct killing type deaths.
Otherwise the greatest threat is global warming and ecological collapse....

 

[Watchmen]

there is no "Monday morning quarterbacking" when it comes to the severe lack of security at this event.

The fact of the matter is that the Secret Service dropped the ball.
Big Time.

Which is being investigated. Let the facts come out and let’s try to keep the conspiracy theories to a minimum.

 

[Laniakea]

The greatest threat to the lives of US citizens have never been Islamic terrorists or illegal immigrants. The greatest threat has been other psychologically disturbed US citizens with guns.
Does anyone disagree?

Yes, I disagree.
So does the Center for Disease Control. The greatest threat to American lives is heart disease. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db456.pdf

 

[McBell]

Which is being investigated. Let the facts come out and let’s try to keep the conspiracy theories to a minimum.

The fact of the matter is the Secret Service utterly failed to secure the venue.

No conspiracy theory involved with that fact.

 

[We Never Know]

Which is being investigated. Let the facts come out and let’s try to keep the conspiracy theories to a minimum.

Those are facts aside from the the last paragraph about what I have been reading online about the director.