Subduction Zone
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That is not a side. That is a fantasy.
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Trump Assassination Attempt
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Ben Dhyan
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Convicted of what, telling the truth? Oh yes of course, that would be considered a crime in Washington DC swampland!
Subduction Zone
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Trump has never told the truth. He merely tells comforting lies for his gullible followers.
anna.
colors your eyes with what's not there
Actually the Queen is the piker, iirc. (Going back to bed, I'll check that quote when I wake up after second sleep.)
But I'm gonna steal that for future use, so many thanks!
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
And you blaspheme.
Subduction Zone
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LOL! No. Trump was not chosen by God. That was merely a fact.
Ben Dhyan
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No you don't know that, there was an ex-Vatican Cardinal who thought DJT was a chosen one, he once was the Vatican envoy to Washington DC, and he thinks these are End Times and Satan saw Trump as a threat to his plans. Do you know whom I am talking about...for real!
On edit. Here it is...
Open Letter to President Donald Trump from the Carlo Maria Vigano, Archbishop of Ulpiana
Open Letter to President Donald Trump from the Carlo Maria Vigano, Archbishop of Ulpiana - Marriage & Family - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online
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There is no 'mafia' running any of those departments now except possibly the House (and you might have added the Supreme Court) because Biden is a decent man who appoints qualified people with clean records. The odd corrupt person might be hired anyway, or someone turn corrupt once seated, but these people are not working together, and if discovered would be dealt with.
But when Trump was president, he did corrupt those agencies as best he could to serve his needs including even the post office. That was by design. His people were chosen because they were already corrupt. As a result of being selected for their corruption, they were present in much greater number, and they knew about one another and coordinated activities.
They weren't all in government. Bannon, Manafort, Stone, and Giuliani come to mind quickly. The number of people connected to Trump who have been indicted, convicted, and or incarcerated is staggering.
Trump corrupted the Supreme Court as well.
The current House wasn't his doing directly, but that ****-show is a MAGA production via Trump that is still his puppet for launching investigations (Biden impeachment) and scuttling legislation (bipartisan border bill).
That's what organized corruption looks like compared to the odd bad apple.
Yes, one can apply the term swamp to any morass he doesn't like such as red tape and bureaucracy, but that Trumpian kind of organized crime in and around government most deserves the term swamp - more than the inertia and inefficiency inherent in big government.
That term never got the scrutiny it deserves. Some might say that America was never great despite its size, wealth, and might because of it moral failings, and many more would say that it's great now, in fact, the greatest country in the world.
One might ask Trump when America was great and when and for what reason it's no longer great. The left understands that as a dog whistle for making America great again for white, male Christians, who are feeling threatened by egalitarianism.
Have you forgotten that he's up for sentencing on 34 felonies very soon and unless he can take the White House and corrupt the DOJ again, he's looking at two indictments from Jack Smith, and one from Fani Willis that is out of federal control. Assuming a Harris victory, Trump's future is courtrooms and prison.
And that's another illustration of the difference between the relative lack of corruption (no mafia) under Garland and corruption by design under Trump. Remember Sessions as AG? Like Pence, he wouldn't break the law for Trump, and so he was removed and eventually replaced by Barr. That's how Trump corrupted the DOJ by design. Those who wouldn't commit crimes for him had to go.
What does that word mean to you?
Trump is a pathological liar. He is a career conman and deadbeat regarding his bills. He's been accused and found liable for sexual predation. He paid hush money to a porn star and then committed 34 felonies trying to cover it up. He is a serial adulterer. He attempted to overthrow a demonstrably fair election and incited an insurrection. He stole government secrets and tried to hide them from the law but not from his friends.
I imagine you see none of that.
This has already been investigated and decided. Legal claims failed. Elections were audited and ballots recounted. There was only a little voting fraud, and it was mostly committed by Republicans, although the fake electors schemes were major election frauds with little chance of succeeding as was Trump's now infamous phone call to Georgia for more votes. Each of those has resulted in multiple indictments and pleas already. And Trump trying to corrupt Pence re not certifying the election results. That's what election fraud looks like. And organized crime, mafia, swamp - they're all apt.
That was your response to, "I am pretty sure that Trump will be convicted if she wins. He will then probably spend the rest of his life in jail."
You're not paying attention to the news. You need mainstream news sources. It seems that you've been sheltered from much about Trump. Here's your chance to get some news that whatever you're looking at now isn't discussing. All one needs do to know these things is watch network nightly news (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS):
There are currently three major felony level cases against Trump pending.
Jack Smith filed two of them from the DOJ, and they involve election crimes and classified documents crimes. They have been delayed by a controversial Supreme Court ruling.
And there is a state level indictment from Georgia for attempted election fraud that has been sidetracked in part due to personal indiscretions on the part of Fulton County's DA Willis.
And there are several states (AZ, NV, MI) looking at indicting Trump for the fake electors he sent to their states.
A conspiracy theory, eh.
What evidence do you have for it?
Blasphemy is good.
Debunk the lies & myths that people hold as THE TRUTH.
Belief that Trump is sent by God to save the country is
the reason he now leads a cult, & "good Christians" demand
that this treasonous rapist institute a caliphate.
I mentioned all of the upcoming trial that would likely land Trump in prison, where I imagine that golf isn't an option, but failed to mention that Trump might be in prison for the election following the upcoming sentencing for the 34 felonies surrounding the porn star hush money coverup, which is scheduled for September 18 (4 weeks from today), but which Trump has requested be delayed until after the election. That's apparently at Judge Merchan's discretion, and he didn't immediately deny the request.
So, for Trump to be in prison on Election Day, it requires that sentencing be held before then and that the judge imposes a jail or prison sentence, the difference as I understand it is that jail is for a year or less of incarceration and prison for longer sentences. Alsa as I understand it, Trump's sentence can range from probation to four years in prison or house arrest.
Will Merchan delay the trial until after the election? We don't know, but Trump's argument appears to be that being a candidate exempts him from trial, which he calls election interference. Neither of those claims hold water. Being a candidate entitles him to nothing unless the judge thinks otherwise (there is no law there protecting Trump), and there is no interference with the election even if incarceration interferes with his ability to attend campaign events. The election is for the voters, not the candidates. They will still vote in what is hoped to be a free and fair election, and they can still vote for Trump wherever he is.
So the chances of a further delay coming from the judge are probably low, but Trump may have other delaying tricks now that the Supreme Court has muddied the waters about immunity. That doesn't seem to be an issue here, since Trump committed his crimes before he was president in an effort to become president.
Regarding sentencing
Going for Trump is:
- [*]No prior criminal record
[*]These are the lowest level felonies
[*]Only about 10% of people convicted of that crime get time
[*]Trump may have intimidated Merchan
- [*]Merchan is particularly tough on white collar criminals
[*]Trump has been defiant and disrespectful throughout, violating multiple gag orders which resulted in death threats in the judge's own family
[*]Trump is remorseless
[*]His multiple other indictments; apparently, the judge is free to take those into consideration as well as the possibility that Trump will not go to trial for any of those, and Merchan may be the only judge that gets an opportunity to put this man in prison where likely believes he belongs
Subduction Zone
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You cannot be serious. Yes, you can always find a loon or two that actually say that. But Trump's actions speak far louder than his words. If you are Christian he is the opposite of every Christian or Jewish value.
Pogo
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What evidence of worship? all I see is a recluse who is happy to live a fancy life and willing to be seen occasionally.
Pogo
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LOL, I thought you meant Melania worshiping, Worshiping her is so scarce around here that I didn't even think of it.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I mean worshipping Melania. I saw it in Texas but not so much up here.
Subduction Zone
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That is why her absence is not good news for Trump. She apparently has had it with him. She seems to believe both the E. Jean Carroll and Stormy Daniels claims. Those cases may not have convinced the person MAGA cult, but they convinced her.
