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Trump Calls for Ban on All Muslims Entering US
- Thread starter Sunstone
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BSM1
What? Me worry?
So do you always look on the bright side?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
A laughing stock, maybe, but it wouldn't get America kicked out of the UN.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Maybe Trump is right to an extent. I'm sure no mass groups of Japanese or Germans were very welcomed into the country during ww2. You have to think of the country first which is what I think he's trying to get across here. A complete ban is a tad far, but tight stringint screening isn't out of the question considering what extremists are doing so far.
Proposing a ban on all Muslims by Trump is, as I see it, political speech meant to draw attention on the potential dangers Islam presents to public safety and security due to radicalism.
Proposing a ban on all Muslims by Trump is, as I see it, political speech meant to draw attention on the potential dangers Islam presents to public safety and security due to radicalism.
I'll bet that if you polled Trump supporters you'd find a solid majority that oppose USA involvement in the UN.
Lots of people here don't believe that we should be a UN member. That would fit the demographic Trump appeals to.
Tom
Theweirdtophat
Well-Known Member
Anyone find inconsistinces here? How come we didn't ban Koreans or Vietnamese during those wars in Korea and Vietnam. We didn't bar any Iraqis either Baring Muslims will not stop the radical islamics. And yet people cheer on because they just want to hate something. They feel like they are on some holy crusade, saying Muslims should be kicked out of the country and they have no idea they are being manipulated because Muslims themselves are not the enemy, extremists are and they can come in all sizes shapes and colors.
It would never happen.....they're addicted to our money.
tytlyf
Not Religious
That's true, they're against anything foreign, even opinions. Only Israel is acceptable. (even though Jews are democratic voters)
Propaganda is powerful, and I can expect to find NRA mailers every other day when the 2016 election gets close
Bernie is boring.
There.....I said it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Bernie doesn't tend to make an *** of himself and say outrageous things. He's just no good for ratings. Trump, OTOH, has been a golden egg for comedians.
Have you read what happened to American-Japanese during WW2?
It's far from exhaustive, but for a simple to read overview if you're not familiar...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
What's your opinion of that?
There is something to be said for boring politicians.
'Exciting' is not something I want associated with foreign policy.
It always has been, pretty much. Try naming a Hindu presidential candidate. An openly gay candidate?
I'll admit, though, that he is treading some relatively new ground in terms of overtly promoting religious discrimination and ignoring the constitution at the same time.
No argument here.
But if one wants media coverage, it pays to be outrageous....or to have Kardashian level junk in the trunk.
Yep. I agree. The media largely appears to resemble moths. Stoke the flame, and watch them come. I figure the media watching/paying public needs to take a little responsibility for that, along with the small number of people owning the media.
Because Nazis, Communists, Totalitarians and Anarchists are banned from becoming US Citizens as applicants are required to be "attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the same." So what Trump said has precedents in US history in the laws passed during the Red Scares in the 20's and the 50's and elsewhere. But there is considerable difference between a political and a religious test for US citizenship. These ideological restrictions continue to be on the statute books in the US and have been recodified in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.
So as a former member of a communist party, I am legally prohibited from becoming a citizen of the United States.
I am too cool for you people. Now stand back and watch me destroy your way of life.
There are exemptions if a person can demonstrate that membership of such an organisation was not ideologically motivated as sometimes people have to join as it is necessary for career advancement in the remaining communist states. It's something to watch out for though. a number of McCarthy era laws remains in force in the US at both state and Federal level as nobody bothered to repeal them. So People can start using them again in the name of "national security". Trump is just starting where McCarthy and co left off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_restrictions_on_naturalization_in_U.S._law
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Maybe it does on a national level. But on an International level, it makes your country look backwards and stupid.