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Trump Guilty of Sexual Abuse.

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
If it's "criminal" for Republicans to support Trump, despite the rape
accusations, why is it OK for Democrats to have supported Clinton?

Or Obama and Hillary Clinton despite their rank hawkishness and the former's drone strikes. Last I checked, killing civilians in another sovereign nation (even as "collateral damage") wasn't exactly legal.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Iran hasn't invaded other countries, as have USSR, Germany, England, etc.
Moreover, USA's repeated attacks on Iran, eg, 1953 coup, Iraq's invasion
(with USA supplied bio & chemical weapons), indicate that Iran needs
to join the nuclear club to stave off further/future USA & Israeli attacks.
Iran needs only to be left to its own devices for peace to reign.
This is not so with Russia, which has invaded Ukraine, & aired plans to
invade other countries to acquire.
But Iran has oil. Our oil! After all, if people need it it is our oil. We would only take what was needed to defray the costs of a well justified war.

Wink, wink, nudge nudge. Say no more.


Okay seriously I do know of people that will argue for that. I do not want us to attack Iran and doing so for their oil would be wrong on far too any levels. But those are the people that Trump would appeal to with his war on Iran.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Don't worry...that after this mishap, Trump will move to Europe, disgusted by what the US politics has become.

So, after defending an imperialist war criminal, murderous dictators, and fascist politicians, now you're defending a convicted sex offender.

What is up with your worldview? Seriously, why do your beliefs harbor so much resentment and hatred?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
So, after defending an imperialist war criminal, murderous dictators, and fascist politicians, now you're defending a convicted sex offender.

What is up with your worldview? Seriously, why do your beliefs harbor so much resentment and hatred?
It turns out Trump hasn't started any war during his administration. I wouldn't define him as a war criminal.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But Iran has oil. Our oil! After all, if people need it it is our oil. We would only take what was needed to defray the costs of a well justified war.

Wink, wink, nudge nudge. Say no more.


Okay seriously I do know of people that will argue for that. I do not want us to attack Iran and doing so for their oil would be wrong on far too any levels. But those are the people that Trump would appeal to with his war on Iran.
If we attacked Iran, we wouldn't get any oil anyway.
That's how our wars go.

The biggest problem I see, aside from our violent Presidents & Congress,
is Israel. They're a corrupting influence on our government.
- They've urged USA to attack Iran.
- They've attacked Iran covertly.
- They put themselves in a position such that USA might
go to war against Iran in Israel's self defense.
- If Israel attacks Iran, Iran knows that Israel has nuclear weapons,
& with USA's help, poses an existential threat to Iran.

With allies like Israel, who needs enemies, eh.

Israel and Iran edge closer to war, but experts say conflict isn't inevitable
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
It turns out Trump hasn't started any war during his administration. I wouldn't define him as a war criminal.

I was referring to Putin. Trump isn't the only reprehensible individual you support.

It makes me wonder whether you intentionally support those who cause harm to others and perpetuate suffering. It wouldn't be the first time I have seen such a markedly antisocial worldview.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
What transpired is that he is a heterosexual man who is into pretty, young women.

But apparently....53 year old women are not exactly pretty and young.
Ah so she's too ugly to rape.
I don't know whether you know the subway of Rome, which is overcrowded from morning to evening.
Once I was wearing tight jeans and a male in his fifties groped my bottom in the train.
I told him in Roman dialect: "you are an adorable piglet, mister".
That has happened to me a number of times.
My response was a tad different from yours .... "**** Off!"
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Really?
(I don't like either.)

Sexual assault, including rape....

If it's "criminal" for Republicans to support Trump, despite the rape
accusations, why is it OK for Democrats to have supported Clinton?


Insurrection is a separate issue....the far more serious one (IMO).


Are you defending Clinton's sexual predation
by citing Trump's treasonous acts?
I could not stand Clinton when he as in office. I could see his faults for to clearly, just as I can see Trump's faults As a President he did much better. He balanced the budget. A "tax and spend Democrat". Trump could have worked towards the same but instead he reversed Obama's trend of ever decreasing deficits when there was no good reason to increase them again. He made our current set back inevitable. Covid just forced the issue. Perhaps Trump's reworking of NAFTA will be a good thing long term, but that is about it.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I did read the reputable sources.
Not when you are asking basic questions about the verdict.
In my opinion, there's no evidence that an assault or rape has ever taken place.
Period.
Who cares? You offer no rational basis for your opinion. Were you in the court? Did you read transcripts of the whole trial? If not, then your opionion is flawed and irrelevant. Why bother having an opinion at all?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Ah so she's too ugly to rape.

That has happened to me a number of times.
My response was a tad different from yours .... "**** Off!"
Trump of course proved that the "Too ugly to rape" claim was false when he conflated Marla and Jean Carroll in a photo. If the very similar testimony of three different w0men was not enough that statement definitely erased any doubt.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It turns out Trump hasn't started any war during his administration. I wouldn't define him as a war criminal.
That is misleading because it suggests that Trump never intended to start a war.
The reality of his attacks on Iran show that we nearly did go to war with Iran.
Trump is far more dangerous that the superficial claim of "no war started" suggests.

 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I could not stand Clinton when he as in office. I could see his faults for to clearly, just as I can see Trump's faults As a President he did much better. He balanced the budget. A "tax and spend Democrat". Trump could have worked towards the same but instead he reversed Obama's trend of ever decreasing deficits when there was no good reason to increase them again. He made our current set back inevitable. Covid just forced the issue. Perhaps Trump's reworking of NAFTA will be a good thing long term, but that is about it.
Had Trump just accepted the election results and gone away there's a chance he could have avoided all criminal jeopardy, but his ego just can't have it. He's like Walter White who doesn't know when to stop and just keeps causing himself more trouble that will eventually lead to his end.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I didn't say that.
I said that if he were into 53 year old women, he wouldn't have married Maples who was 30, and Melania who was 28.
That he was able to land some young gold diggers doesn't mean he wasn't a sexual predator against women he found attractive at older ages. Trump has 26 sexual assault accusations against him. That's not a trival number. He even bragged about doing it in a recording, as we all know (except you, perhaps).
 
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