Trump Guilty of Sexual Abuse.

[Debater Slayer]

If it's "criminal" for Republicans to support Trump, despite the rape
accusations, why is it OK for Democrats to have supported Clinton?

Or Obama and Hillary Clinton despite their rank hawkishness and the former's drone strikes. Last I checked, killing civilians in another sovereign nation (even as "collateral damage") wasn't exactly legal.

 

[Revoltingest]

You haven't told me yet whether you believe in an afterlife...or not.

I never felt compelled to tell you.
If you're asking now, the answer is NO.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Iran hasn't invaded other countries, as have USSR, Germany, England, etc.
Moreover, USA's repeated attacks on Iran, eg, 1953 coup, Iraq's invasion
(with USA supplied bio & chemical weapons), indicate that Iran needs
to join the nuclear club to stave off further/future USA & Israeli attacks.
Iran needs only to be left to its own devices for peace to reign.
This is not so with Russia, which has invaded Ukraine, & aired plans to
invade other countries to acquire.

But Iran has oil. Our oil! After all, if people need it it is our oil. We would only take what was needed to defray the costs of a well justified war.

Wink, wink, nudge nudge. Say no more.


Okay seriously I do know of people that will argue for that. I do not want us to attack Iran and doing so for their oil would be wrong on far too any levels. But those are the people that Trump would appeal to with his war on Iran.

 

[Estro Felino]

I never felt compelled to tell you.
If you're asking now, the answer is NO.

Thank you for your kind answer.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Don't worry...that after this mishap, Trump will move to Europe, disgusted by what the US politics has become.

So, after defending an imperialist war criminal, murderous dictators, and fascist politicians, now you're defending a convicted sex offender.

What is up with your worldview? Seriously, why do your beliefs harbor so much resentment and hatred?

 

[Estro Felino]

So, after defending an imperialist war criminal, murderous dictators, and fascist politicians, now you're defending a convicted sex offender.

What is up with your worldview? Seriously, why do your beliefs harbor so much resentment and hatred?

It turns out Trump hasn't started any war during his administration. I wouldn't define him as a war criminal.

 

[Revoltingest]

But Iran has oil. Our oil! After all, if people need it it is our oil. We would only take what was needed to defray the costs of a well justified war.

Wink, wink, nudge nudge. Say no more.


Okay seriously I do know of people that will argue for that. I do not want us to attack Iran and doing so for their oil would be wrong on far too any levels. But those are the people that Trump would appeal to with his war on Iran.

If we attacked Iran, we wouldn't get any oil anyway.
That's how our wars go.

The biggest problem I see, aside from our violent Presidents & Congress,
is Israel. They're a corrupting influence on our government.
- They've urged USA to attack Iran.
- They've attacked Iran covertly.
- They put themselves in a position such that USA might
go to war against Iran in Israel's self defense.
- If Israel attacks Iran, Iran knows that Israel has nuclear weapons,
& with USA's help, poses an existential threat to Iran.

With allies like Israel, who needs enemies, eh.

Israel and Iran edge closer to war, but experts say conflict isn't inevitable

Israel to urge US to act militarily against Iran amid stalled nuke talks — reports

Israeli TV says Gantz, Mossad chief will also press for tougher sanctions against Tehran during their meetings in Washington this week

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Debater Slayer]

It turns out Trump hasn't started any war during his administration. I wouldn't define him as a war criminal.

I was referring to Putin. Trump isn't the only reprehensible individual you support.

It makes me wonder whether you intentionally support those who cause harm to others and perpetuate suffering. It wouldn't be the first time I have seen such a markedly antisocial worldview.

 

[SkepticThinker]

What transpired is that he is a heterosexual man who is into pretty, young women.

But apparently....53 year old women are not exactly pretty and young.

Ah so she's too ugly to rape.

I don't know whether you know the subway of Rome, which is overcrowded from morning to evening.
Once I was wearing tight jeans and a male in his fifties groped my bottom in the train.
I told him in Roman dialect: "you are an adorable piglet, mister".

That has happened to me a number of times.
My response was a tad different from yours .... "**** Off!"

 

[Subduction Zone]

Really?
(I don't like either.)

Sexual assault, including rape....

The Full List Of Bill Clinton Sexual Assault Allegations By 12 Different Women

Over the course of the past 48 years, Clinton has been repeatedly accused of serious criminal misconduct against women. In fact, when Clinton's troubling past has been raised by Conservatives, even Liberals as profoundly outspoken on behalf of assault survivors as Teen Vogue's Lauren Duca are...

www.yahoo.com

Bill Clinton sexual assault and misconduct allegations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If it's "criminal" for Republicans to support Trump, despite the rape
accusations, why is it OK for Democrats to have supported Clinton?


Insurrection is a separate issue....the far more serious one (IMO).


Are you defending Clinton's sexual predation
by citing Trump's treasonous acts?

I could not stand Clinton when he as in office. I could see his faults for to clearly, just as I can see Trump's faults As a President he did much better. He balanced the budget. A "tax and spend Democrat". Trump could have worked towards the same but instead he reversed Obama's trend of ever decreasing deficits when there was no good reason to increase them again. He made our current set back inevitable. Covid just forced the issue. Perhaps Trump's reworking of NAFTA will be a good thing long term, but that is about it.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Ew what? The man's age?

Ew that someone would touch you without your consent.

 

[F1fan]

I did read the reputable sources.

Not when you are asking basic questions about the verdict.

In my opinion, there's no evidence that an assault or rape has ever taken place.
Period.

Who cares? You offer no rational basis for your opinion. Were you in the court? Did you read transcripts of the whole trial? If not, then your opionion is flawed and irrelevant. Why bother having an opinion at all?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ah so she's too ugly to rape.

That has happened to me a number of times.
My response was a tad different from yours .... "**** Off!"

Trump of course proved that the "Too ugly to rape" claim was false when he conflated Marla and Jean Carroll in a photo. If the very similar testimony of three different w0men was not enough that statement definitely erased any doubt.

 

[Revoltingest]

It turns out Trump hasn't started any war during his administration. I wouldn't define him as a war criminal.

That is misleading because it suggests that Trump never intended to start a war.
The reality of his attacks on Iran show that we nearly did go to war with Iran.
Trump is far more dangerous that the superficial claim of "no war started" suggests.

Inside the attack that almost sent the U.S. to war with Iran

David Martin speaks with troops who were there as an Iranian ballistic missile attack rained down on Al Asad Airbase in Iraq, part of six days that saw the U.S. and Iran go to the brink of war.

www.cbsnews.com

Gen. Mark Milley reportedly warned Trump not to strike Iran: 'You're gonna have a f---ing war'

Milley wondered why Trump's advisors wanted to attack Iran. "Because they are evil," Vice President Mike Pence said, according to a book excerpt.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[SkepticThinker]

I would never accuse anybody here of lying.
So I kindly invite you to stop accusing me of that. It's not nice.

And by the way, I was speaking of lies that ruin people's lives.

Like the ones Trump told about E. Jean Carroll. We agree then!

 

[SkepticThinker]

You really don't know what I believe....other than not believing in gods.

Another non sequitur.
After a lengthy trial, Trump was found liable for sexual assault & defamation.
Are you saying they were wrong, & that Trump is innocent?
If so, on what basis?

Wishful thinking?

 

[Father Heathen]

I would never accuse anybody here of lying.
So I kindly invite you to stop accusing me of that. It's not nice.

And by the way, I was speaking of lies that ruin people's lives.

But you've been nothing but dishonest and willfully ignorant. If you don't like being called out on it, then knock it off.

 

[Estro Felino]

Ah so she's too ugly to rape.

I didn't say that.
I said that if he were into 53 year old women, he wouldn't have married Maples who was 30, and Melania who was 28.

 

[F1fan]

I could not stand Clinton when he as in office. I could see his faults for to clearly, just as I can see Trump's faults As a President he did much better. He balanced the budget. A "tax and spend Democrat". Trump could have worked towards the same but instead he reversed Obama's trend of ever decreasing deficits when there was no good reason to increase them again. He made our current set back inevitable. Covid just forced the issue. Perhaps Trump's reworking of NAFTA will be a good thing long term, but that is about it.

Had Trump just accepted the election results and gone away there's a chance he could have avoided all criminal jeopardy, but his ego just can't have it. He's like Walter White who doesn't know when to stop and just keeps causing himself more trouble that will eventually lead to his end.

 

[F1fan]

I didn't say that.
I said that if he were into 53 year old women, he wouldn't have married Maples who was 30, and Melania who was 28.

That he was able to land some young gold diggers doesn't mean he wasn't a sexual predator against women he found attractive at older ages. Trump has 26 sexual assault accusations against him. That's not a trival number. He even bragged about doing it in a recording, as we all know (except you, perhaps).