Trump Guilty of Sexual Abuse.

[Estro Felino]

Perhaps he wanted to schedule a home invasion & burglary?

Dearest, I have had many more men than the aforementioned J. Carroll ever will.

And I am still young.
So...

 

[F1fan]

Juridically, the onus is on the victim.
Did she prove she was raped 27 years ago?

First this was a civil lawsuit, not criminal. The jury only has to hear the evidence and conclude it was more likely true that the claims of harm are true. The jury wasn't sure if an actual rape occurred since Carroll wasn't certain herself as Trump attacked her violently. The jury was convinced a sexual assault happened, and that he defamed her. The jury had one MAGA member and even he agreed that Trump likely did these acts. They came back with a decision in about 3 hours which is facst, so the evidence was very compelling.

She hasn't, as far as I am concerned and according to the Roman Law judicial systems.

She wasn't raped in Rome, so irrelevant. Women have long striggled to get justice for sexual assault and that is chancing, which is a good thing. For as much as America claims to be family friendly there is still a lot of discrimination against women. These negative biases is a hallmark of conservatives these days.

It's like I said: "Leonardo Di Caprio raped me, some years ago, and the onus is on him, to prove it didn't happened".

It's insane. It's more than insane. It's twisted and sick.

If a man rapes a woman that is a sick man who committed crimes. Trump is one of these sick people.

 

[Estro Felino]

First this was a civil lawsuit, not criminal. The jury only has to hear the evidence and conclude it was more likely true that the claims of harm are true. The jury wasn't sure if an actual rape occurred since Carroll wasn't certain herself as Trump attacked her violently. The jury was convinced a sexual assault happened, and that he defamed her. The jury had one MAGA member and even he agreed that Trump likely did these acts. They came back with a decision in about 3 hours which is facst, so the evidence was very compelling.

She wasn't raped in Rome, so irrelevant. Women have long striggled to get justice for sexual assault and that is chancing, which is a good thing. For as much as America claims to be family friendly there is still a lot of discrimination against women. These negative biases is a hallmark of conservatives these days.

If a man rapes a woman that is a sick man who committed crimes. Trump is one of these sick people.

Interesting.
I am not understanding how he defamed her.
What did he say?

 

[F1fan]

What I hear is that they support Trump because he (unlike
Biden) loves this country, & his agendas are best for it.
(I disagree with them.)

It's not disagrement like coke is better than pepsi, it is vastly more severe a type of irrational belief. It's almost a criminal mindset, how else could a voter support a criminal candidate?

This is somewhat similar to how Democrats supported
Bill Clinton, despite his sexual predation. It's about
2 things....
1) Compartmentalization of thinking.
2) Priorities.

Nothing at all alike. It's clear Clinton had affairs, but sexual assault?

Even if Clinton had a similar track record of sexual misconduct as Trump, Clinton never put American democracy at risk. Not the same in the slightest. Voters never put America at risk like MAGA's havem and still do with their death threats against school board members and election officials, etc.

 

[F1fan]

Interesting.
I am not understanding how he defamed her.
What did he say?

Why bother posting at all when you aren't even informed on the topic? You post all sorts of nonsense and create irrelevant tangents, and then have no idea what the trial is about. You're on the internet, you have access to reputal news. Use it.

 

[Estro Felino]

Why bother posting at all when you aren't even informed on the topic? You post all sorts of nonsense and create irrelevant tangents, and then have no idea what the trial is about. You're on the internet, you have access to reputal news. Use it.

I did read the reputable sources.
In my opinion, there's no evidence that an assault or rape has ever taken place.
Period.

 

[Estro Felino]

Where's that <optimistic> frubal when ya need it, eh.

The difference between me and you, is that you believe that if a woman lies before the Government, that is the judicial system, she will not have any consequence in the afterlife, since there is no afterlife.

We Christians believe that liars who ruin other people's lives end up in Hell. And there's no such a thing as God's mercy whenever something like that happens.

I am not saying she did lie, since I don't possess the absolute truth. I was speaking in general.

 

[Father Heathen]

I did read the reputable sources.
In my opinion, there's no evidence that an assault or rape has ever taken place.
Period.

Your opinion is worthless in the face of facts.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's not disagrement like coke is better than pepsi...

Really?
(I don't like either.)

...it is vastly more severe a type of irrational belief. It's almost a criminal mindset, how else could a voter support a criminal candidate?

Nothing at all alike. It's clear Clinton had affairs, but sexual assault?

Sexual assault, including rape....

The Full List Of Bill Clinton Sexual Assault Allegations By 12 Different Women

Over the course of the past 48 years, Clinton has been repeatedly accused of serious criminal misconduct against women. In fact, when Clinton's troubling past has been raised by Conservatives, even Liberals as profoundly outspoken on behalf of assault survivors as Teen Vogue's Lauren Duca are...

www.yahoo.com

Bill Clinton sexual assault and misconduct allegations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If it's "criminal" for Republicans to support Trump, despite the rape
accusations, why is it OK for Democrats to have supported Clinton?

Even if Clinton had a similar track record of sexual misconduct as Trump, Clinton never put American democracy at risk.

Insurrection is a separate issue....the far more serious one (IMO).

Not the same in the slightest. Voters never put America at risk like MAGA's havem and still do with their death threats against school board members and election officials, etc.

Are you defending Clinton's sexual predation
by citing Trump's treasonous acts?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Kaching! Money!!

Well deserved.

 

[Father Heathen]

The difference between me and you, is that you believe that if a woman lies before the Government, that is the judicial system, she will not have any consequence in the afterlife, since there is no afterlife.

We Christians believe that liars who ruin other people's lives end up in Hell. And there's no such a thing as God's mercy whenever something like that happens.

I am not saying she did lie, since I don't possess the absolute truth. I was speaking in general.

Yet your belief in hell hasn't stopped you from lying persistently here on the forum.

 

[SkepticThinker]

In today's society I don't think defamation has the impact that it used to have.

I'd say it's worse.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Possibly still Trump.

Lyndon Larouche lives!!

 

[Estro Felino]

Yet your belief in hell hasn't stopped you from lying persistently here on the forum.

I would never accuse anybody here of lying.
So I kindly invite you to stop accusing me of that. It's not nice.

And by the way, I was speaking of lies that ruin people's lives.

 

[Revoltingest]

The difference between me and you, is that you believe that if a woman lies before the Government, that is the judicial system, she will not have any consequence in the afterlife, since there is no afterlife.

You really don't know what I believe....other than not believing in gods.

We Christians believe that liars who ruin other people's lives end up in Hell. And there's no such a thing as God's mercy whenever something like that happens.

I am not saying she did lie, since I don't possess the absolute truth. I was speaking in general.

Another non sequitur.
After a lengthy trial, Trump was found liable for sexual assault & defamation.
Are you saying they were wrong, & that Trump is innocent?
If so, on what basis?

 

[Estro Felino]

You really don't know what I believe....other than not believing in gods.

Another non sequitur.
After a lengthy trial, Trump was found liable for sexual assault & defamation.
Are you saying they were wrong, & that Trump is innocent?
If so, on what basis?

I couldn't care less about worldly justice, as a Christian. It's ephemeral.
I only care about Godly justice because God's tribunal is a fair court.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Don't worry...that after this mishap, Trump will move to Europe, disgusted by what the US politics has become.

I wish he'd move to Mars.

 

[Revoltingest]

I couldn't care less about worldly justice, as a Christian. It's ephemeral.

Your view does explain how you can be so positive about Putin & Trump.
But I live in this world, & favor that justice be had now.
So let Ukraine crush the evil Russian invaders.
Let Trump suffer defeat in 2024.
And let SCOTUS begin to favor civil all liberties...not just the ones approved by the Pope.

 

[Estro Felino]

I wish he'd move to Mars.

Man will return to the Moon after 50 years of waiting.
With this rate, man will land on Mars in 3500 AD.

 

[Estro Felino]

Your view does explain how you can be so positive about Putin & Trump.
But I live in this world, & favor that justice be had now.
So let Ukraine crush the evil Russian invaders.
Let Trump suffer defeat in 2024.
And let SCOTUS begin to favor civil all liberties...not just the ones approved by the Pope.

You haven't told me yet whether you believe in an afterlife...or not.