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Trump Guilty of Sexual Abuse.

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That he was able to land some young gold diggers doesn't mean he wasn't a sexual predator against women he found attractive at older ages. Trump has 26 sexual assault accusations against him. That's not a trival number. He even bragged about doing it in a recording, as we all know (except you, perhaps).

The fact that he married the most beautiful actresses and models show that he could have all the women in the world.
He didn't need to "assault" a 53 year old woman.

That's my point.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I could not stand Clinton when he as in office. I could see his faults for to clearly, just as I can see Trump's faults As a President he did much better. He balanced the budget.
Actually, that was Congress under Gingrich's reign.
It helped that we had no ongoing wars at the time.
Presidents shouldn't get either credit or blame for
all that happens during their reign. There are many
factors.
A "tax and spend Democrat". Trump could have worked towards the same but instead he reversed Obama's trend of ever decreasing deficits when there was no good reason to increase them again.
Obama reduced the deficit?
Pbbbbttttt!
He made our current set back inevitable. Covid just forced the issue. Perhaps Trump's reworking of NAFTA will be a good thing long term, but that is about it.
I oppose Trump's profligate spending too.
But his supposed "tax reduction" actually wasn't.
Federal income tax revenue increased because of
increases therein, eg, reducing the SALT deductions.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
He didn't need to "assault" a 53 year old woman.

Nobody needs to assault anyone. Those who do so have psychological issues and a complete disregard for others' boundaries.

It is beyond disturbing that you're looking at this from a viewpoint of whether someone "needs" to assault a woman instead of the available evidence, which led to the guilty verdict against Trump.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Nobody needs to assault anyone. Those who do so have psychological issues and a complete disregard for others' boundaries.

It is beyond disturbing that you're looking at this from a viewpoint of whether someone "needs" to assault a woman instead of the available evidence, which led to the guilty verdict against Trump.
A psychiatric expertise on Trump would have ascertained that.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It's not though. Rape\sexual battery is about control and power.

So this theory of yours basically affirms that:

1) Rapists rape to exercise their control and power
2) They don't look for women who are sexually available, even if they are pretty.
3) They look for women who don't want to have sex with them, even if they are unattractive.
4) Since rape is about imposing their power on them.


Am I wrong?
Correct me if I am wrong, please.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
The fact that he married the most beautiful actresses and models show that he could have all the women in the world.
He didn't need to "assault" a 53 year old woman.

That's my point.
Your point is thoroughly refuted trash. Everything has already been explained. Your failure and/or refusal to understand and accept it is your own personal problem.

Stop spamming the thread.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
The central issue in the upcoming election will be the freedom to kill unwanted children in the womb. The Left will raise lots of money off of that.
Not with Sleepy Joe on the ticket. Women's bodily autonomy isn't very high on his list.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
So this theory of yours basically affirms that:

1) Rapists rape to exercise their control and power
2) They don't look for women who are sexually available, even if they are pretty.
3) They look for women who don't want to have sex with them, even if they are unattractive.
4) Since rape is about imposing their power on them.


Am I wrong?
Correct me if I am wrong, please.
Here's some reading material for you:


"Abstract: Accounts from both offenders and victims of what occurs during a rape suggest that issues of power, anger, and sexuality are important in understanding the rapist's behavior. All three issues seem to operate in every rape, but the proportion varies and one issue seems to dominate in each instance. The authors ranked accounts from 133 offenders and 92 victims for the dominant issue and found that the offenses could be categorized as power rape (sexuality used primarily to express power) or anger rape (use of sexuality to express anger). There were no rapes in which sex was the dominant issue; sexuality was always in the service of other, nonsexual needs."

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Indeed we do.
I find it tedious & annoying to attempt conversing
with posters who won't come out & say exactly
where they stand on issues. Instead, we get some
indirect sniping, suggestion, digression, & tap dancing.
Trying to pin them down to something specific fails.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Here's some reading material for you:


"Abstract: Accounts from both offenders and victims of what occurs during a rape suggest that issues of power, anger, and sexuality are important in understanding the rapist's behavior. All three issues seem to operate in every rape, but the proportion varies and one issue seems to dominate in each instance. The authors ranked accounts from 133 offenders and 92 victims for the dominant issue and found that the offenses could be categorized as power rape (sexuality used primarily to express power) or anger rape (use of sexuality to express anger). There were no rapes in which sex was the dominant issue; sexuality was always in the service of other, nonsexual needs."

I don't want to derail the thread, but I find the linked analysis
to be lacking. Less than 200 perps & victims were interviewed.
And how were they selected? It appears that the authors
excluded some common types of rape that are primarily sexually
motivated, eg, sex with an intoxicated partner, sex with an under
age partner, sex where consent was questionable, & later revoked.

I note that Trump's sexual assaults appear to
be more of the aggressive & violent kind.
He'd fit with the types in the study you cited.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I find it tedious & annoying to attempt conversing
with posters who won't come out & say exactly
where they stand on issues. Instead, we get some
indirect sniping, suggestion, digression, & tap dancing.
Trying to pin them down to something specific fails.
I concur. I've run across a lot of this, as of late.
 
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