Trump kicked off Colorado ballot

[Watchmen]

I strongly doubt any of those legal experts agree with your suggestion that Trump would need to have the equivalent of a criminal trial to be ineligible to run again.

All the opinions I've seen saying that the US Supreme Court may overturn this decision hinge on ideas like:

• Whether "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" implies "support the Constitution", or
• Whether the decision about ineligibility should happen now or later (e.g. by Congress raising an objection during the Electoral College vote count).

The dissent literally rails against the majority due to the lack of due process.

 

[We Never Know]

I do worry that there could be blowback from this: Republicans prevented from voting for Trump in the primary choose a candidate who's actually competent, who attracts back enough of the people repelled by Trump to take the election.

Of course there will be blow back. The choice of the people is being taken away.
The people should decide who they vote for to run for president, not the courts to decide.

 

[McBell]

He's already indicted for the crime. Can you be indicted twice for the same crime? No.

There's only one case here. What Insurrection are you referring to here other than January 6th?

Colorado is in a partisan attack by partisan activists, using partisan judges, and committing election interference.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Are you saying the polls that show Trump leading Biden are BS?

Yes. Polls this far out are notoriously bad. Remember the Red Tsunami that polling said would happen in 2022? Barely a red ripple. Better indicators are which party has more people registering and voting early. That is for later.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes. Polls this far out are notoriously bad. Remember the Red Tsunami that polling said would happen in 2022? Barely a red ripple. Better indicators are which party has more people registering and voting early.

I never saw any polls predicting a red Red Tsunami. That was repub BS statements afaik.

 

[Twilight Hue]

There were no charges in Colorado against Trump! It was a question of eligibility to be on the ballot based on a finding of fact that he engaged in insurrection. HE HAS NOT YET BEEN CHARGED WITH INSURRECTION or any other criminal act in Colorado! AFAIK, no one in New York has challenged his eligibility under the 14th Amendment. I think you are confusing cases.

He's already indicted for the crime. Can you be indicted twice for the same crime? No.

There's only one case here so what other Insurrection are you referring to here, other than January 6th?

Colorado is in reality, has instuted a partisan left wing attack by partisan left wing activists, using partisan left wing judges, and committing election interference with the goal of removing political opposition and to procure a political win using an illicit methodology that bastardizes the Constitution and only serves to compliment despots and tyrant regimes who dont want any political competition to get in the way of their political goals.

 

[McBell]

Are you saying the polls that show Trump leading Biden are BS?

Trump lost the popular vote both time he ran for President.
It mattered not one bit what the polls claimed, now did it?
He still lost the popular vote every time he ran for President.

 

[McBell]

He's already indicted for the crime. Can you be indicted twice for the same crime? No.

There's only one case here so what other Insurrection are you referring to here, other than January 6th?

Colorado is in reality, has instuted a partisan left wing attack by partisan left wing activists, using partisan left wing judges, and committing election interference with the goal of removing political opposition and to procure a political win using an illicit methodology that bastardizes the Constitution and only serves to compliment despots and tyrant regimes who dont want any political competition to get in the way of their political goals.

I am going to need a bigger boat.

 

[We Never Know]

Dems beat him in the popular vote in the last two elections, and Dems have beat nearly every candidate he has endorsed since 2020. They are also winning nearly all special Federal elections. Trump is poison.

Do you think that tge all-Democrat appointed Colorado Supreme Court, being all democrat, had anything to do with the decision?

 

[We Never Know]

Trump lost the popular vote both time he ran for President.
It mattered not one bit what the polls claimed, now did it?
He still lost the popular vote every time he ran for President.

The popular vote doesn't elect the president. So there's that little issue.

 

[McBell]

The popular vote doesn't elect the president. So there's that little issue.

And the fact that the polls you refer to are all about the popular vote...
Seems you are chasing your own tail.

 

[Wandering Monk]

He's already indicted for the crime. Can you be indicted twice for the same crime? No.

There's only one case here so what other Insurrection are you referring to here, other than January 6th?

Colorado is in reality, has instuted a partisan left wing attack by partisan left wing activists, using partisan left wing judges, and committing election interference with the goal of removing political opposition and to procure a political win using an illicit methodology that bastardizes the Constitution and only serves to compliment despots and tyrant regimes who dont want any political competition to get in the way of their political goals.

He has not been indicted for insurrection anywhere in the US. What crime are YOU referring to? The Colorado challenge to eligibility was brought by six REPUBLICANS! As has been pointed out, the Colorado Supreme Court cited Gorsuch in their opinion.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Do you think that tge all-Democrat appointed Colorado Supreme Court, being all democrat, had anything to do with the decision?

You know how Marx's Democrats work as a hive. One mind, one policy, one state, and no exceptions.

 

[We Never Know]

And the fact that the polls you refer to are all about the popular vote...
Seems you are chasing your own tail.

Not chasing my tail. The polls show Trump leading. There is a error % margin.

 

[Twilight Hue]

He has not been indicted for insurrection anywhere in the US. What crime are YOU referring to? The Colorado challenge to eligibility was brought by six REPUBLICANS! As has been pointed out, the Colorado Supreme Court cited Gorsuch in their opinion.

If he's not indicted like you clearly state, then why the hell is he going to criminal court in the New York on those charges in march for a trial?

Can you actually answer that, or are you just going to twiddle your thumbs and continue denying he is indicted when everyone else on this planet knows he was indicted.

Indictments against Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Here Are the Charges Trump Faces in the Jan. 6 Case (Published 2023)

The former president is charged with three conspiracy counts and the corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding.

www.nytimes.com

Are you sure you haven't been visiting some alternate parallel dimension or something where Trump isnt indicted for insurrection?

 

[Wandering Monk]

You know how Marx's Democrats work as a hive. One mind, one policy, one state, and no exceptions.

Six Republicans petitioned to have Trump removed from the ballot.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Six Republicans petitioned to have Trump removed from the ballot.

Yea so they themselves can take his place.

I think there's a word for people like that.

 

[Watchmen]

The political affiliation of those who petitioned and the judges who ruled is largely irrelevant to the Constitution dangers of what’s happening g.

 

[F1fan]

Of course there will be blow back. The choice of the people is being taken away.

That is the propaganda. If Trump was 34 the choice of the people would still not have him as an option according to the constitution.

It is problematic that the 14th is vague. But that is why courts have to decide it.

The people should decide who they vote for to run for president, not the courts to decide.

The people DO get to decide as long as the candidate is qualified.

 

[Wandering Monk]

If he's not indicted like you clearly state, then why the hell is he going to criminal court in the New York on those charges in march for a trial?

Can you actually answer that, or are you just going to twiddle your thumbs and continue denying he is indicted when everyone else on this planet knows he was indicted.

Indictments against Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Here Are the Charges Trump Faces in the Jan. 6 Case (Published 2023)

The former president is charged with three conspiracy counts and the corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding.

www.nytimes.com

Are you sure you haven't been visiting some alternate parallel dimension or something where Trump isnt indicted for insurrection?

He is going to trial in March in NY for falsifying business records, not insurrection. Did you even read the Wikipedia article you posted? There is no double-jeopardy here because the Colorado SC ruling was about Trump's qualification to be on the ballot, not business crime like in NY. There are not two crimes here to cause double jeopardy. Even if Trump was charge with insurrection, they are not substantially the same crime.

The Double Jeopardy Clause in the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution prohibits anyone from being prosecuted twice for substantially the same crime. The relevant part of the Fifth Amendment states, "No person shall . . . be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb . . . . "​

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double jeopardy

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