Trump kicked off Colorado ballot

[Subduction Zone]

Due process was not followed. You literally admitted earlier you have not read the dissents, which would be beneficial to you.

What’s your legal training?

Probably the same as yours. I cannot read the New York Times. The last article did not support you. And why do you think that a conviction is necessary? Do you have precedent that says so? I have precedent that says it is not needed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Here’s an article from a Harvard legal scholar who hates Trump but strongly believes the Supremes should unanimously reverse Colorado.

The Supreme Court Must Unanimously Strike Down Trump’s Ballot Removal

Excluding him, wrongfully, by a close vote of the Supreme Court could well trigger the next Civil War.

slate.com

And here is one from the Harvard Gazette where they interview a retired Harvard professor. Which on knows his law better?

‘No easy exit ramp’ for SCOTUS on Trump, Harvard scholar says— Harvard Gazette

Historic 4-3 decision by the Colorado Supreme Court to bar former president from the state’s primary ballot has turned up the heat on the 2024 presidential race.

news.harvard.edu

If you think that it is a slam dunk for you you are terribly mistaken. The Supreme Court very well might agree with your position, but in no way does that make it a slam dunk.

EDIT: And the Harvard professor that I cited appears to have more credibility than yours. He had the title of "University Professor" and I am pretty sure that yours did not. He probably is a professor at Harvard university, but in all of Harvard's history fewer than 75 people have been awarded that title:

Laurence H. Tribe - Harvard Law School

Laurence H. Tribe is the Carl M. Loeb University Professor of Constitutional Law Emeritus at Harvard University. The title “University Professor” is Harvard’s highest academic honor, awarded to fewer than 75 professors in the University’s history. Tribe taught at Harvard Law School since 1968...

hls.harvard.edu

 

[Subduction Zone]

What Colorado said isn’t binding precedent. Those darn legal terms you don’t understand keep getting in the way.

Every judge in Colorado said Trump engaged in insurrection? Seems like you haven’t read the dissents. Which you admitted.

As to your second paragraph, of course I knew that. It’s also irrelevant to the instant discussion.

LMAO! I never said that it was. You ignored the legal precedents. Why do you just be honest enough to admit that.

And yes, even the judges that dissented said that Trump engaged in insurrection. Wow.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can’t help it if you don’t understand legalese. Why do you refuse to read the dissents?

Oh please, Try again.

 

[Twilight Hue]

This shows your shallow understanding of the issue.

You also didn’t answer my question.

For some people just acknowledgment is conviction. No due process in a criminal court.

They just think Judge Judy style courts are enough for a felony offense.

 

[McBell]

For some people just acknowledgment is conviction. No due process in a criminal court.

They just think Judge Judy style courts are enough for a felony offense.

What did the Colorado court that removed Trump from the ballot charge trump with?
I mean, that is the core of your "argument" right?
that trump was criminally charged in Colorado and thus it is double jeopardy, right?

So why is it you continuously run tail tucked when flat out asked about the charges?
Or what Colorado convicted him of?

 

[Twilight Hue]

What did the Colorado court that removed Trump from the ballot charge trump with?
I mean, that is the core of your "argument" right?
that trump was criminally charged in Colorado and thus it is double jeopardy, right?

So why is it you continuously run tail tucked when flat out asked about the charges?
Or what Colorado convicted him of?

Oh please spare the platitudes.

Insurrection is a felony charge. Civil courts come after a felony conviction.

Maybe one day, someday, you will discover what the difference is.

Can you tell me if any other court case with a felony charge where the Civil Court decided before the criminal court first?

All you need to do is provide one itsy bitsy example. Not very hard right?

 

[Subduction Zone]

For some people just acknowledgment is conviction. No due process in a criminal court.

They just think Judge Judy style courts are enough for a felony offense.

And once again, what makes you think that a conviction is needed?

 

[McBell]

Oh please spare the platitudes.

Insurrection is a felony charge. Civil courts come after a felony conviction.

Maybe one day, someday, you will discover what the difference is.

Can you tell me if any other court case with a felony charge where the Civil Court decided before the criminal court first?

All you need to do is provide one itsy bitsy example. Not very hard right?

Please present the Colorado Court documents that confirm your claim that Colorado criminally charged Trump with insurrection.

I'll wait.
Cause they do not exist.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh please spare the platitudes.

Insurrection is a felony charge. Civil courts come after a felony conviction.

Maybe one day, someday, you will discover what the difference is.

Can you tell me if any other court case with a felony charge where the Civil Court decided before the criminal court first?

All you need to do is provide one itsy bitsy example. Not very hard right?

It can be. It does not have to be.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It can be. It does not have to be.

Obviously with the Judge Judy crowd of biased justice it is.

 

[McBell]

Oh please spare the platitudes.

Insurrection is a felony charge. Civil courts come after a felony conviction.

Maybe one day, someday, you will discover what the difference is.

Can you tell me if any other court case with a felony charge where the Civil Court decided before the criminal court first?

All you need to do is provide one itsy bitsy example. Not very hard right?

What did the Colorado court that removed Trump from the ballot charge trump with?

I did notice you completely failed to answer this question in your above, well, whatever that is.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What did the Colorado court that removed Trump from the ballot charge trump with?

I did notice you completely failed to answer this question in your above, well, whatever that is.

No. You just habitually ignore the answers that people have given you already, and then you accuse them of failing to give you an answer.

I'd recommend rereading the entire thread.

 

[McBell]

No. You just habitually ignore the answers that people have given you already, and then you accuse them of failing to give you an answer.

I'd recommend rereading the entire thread.

What did the Colorado court that removed Trump from the ballot charge trump with?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Obviously with the Judge Judy crowd of biased justice it is.

Once again no. The case still has to be made in front of a judge.. You are merely looking for excuses.

And you keep forgetting that removal is not a criminal charge. Different standards apply.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What did the Colorado court that removed Trump from the ballot charge trump with?

Absolutely nothing. There's your answer. It's time to put Trump back on the ballot until he is charged.

Now you can continue on denying that I've given you an answer to your heart's content.

I'd still like to see an answer where a civil court proceeds a criminal court for the felony charge of insurrection to apply.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Once again no. The case still has to be made in front of a judge.. You are merely looking for excuses.

And you keep forgetting that removal is not a criminal charge. Different standards apply.

Oh good. Texas and Florida would love hearing that if and when they remove Biden from the ballot.

 

[McBell]

Absolutely nothing. There's your answer.

So then you finally understand it was not a criminal trial?
Thus meaning double jeopardy can not apply?

 

[Twilight Hue]

So then you finally understand it was not a criminal trial?
Thus meaning double jeopardy can not apply?

Good. Then it's time to put Trump back on the ballot until he is declared an insurrectionist.

That's the reason why they removed him right? They considered him a insurrectionist.

I love Judge Judy people, they're so funny with their reasoning.

 

[McBell]

Oh good. Texas and Florida would love hearing that if and when they remove Biden from the ballot.

Wonder what they are going to charge Biden with?
Remember, you are the one claiming that someone has to be convicted before being removed from a ballot.