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Trump: Officially Next President!!!

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
They do, but, nevertheless, they harp on about how it's a Christian Nation and Christian majority, but when it comes time to reflect on the values, suddenly their only Christian in name only, their only a Christian on Sunday, or more bluntly they aren't a real Christian. They only cling to the "Christian Nation" when it is convenient for them, and they ditch it as soon as it starts to work against them.

That isn't unique to Christianity, that is just humanity.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Telling religion they don't have the right to define marriage or a right to decide who they will serve in public is not forgetting "freedom of religion." Rather, it's a reminder of past court cases that have already ruled such.


Do people of religion, or only one religion get married? This is obviously nonsense. Most of the Republican party is fine with gay marriage (as in they just don't care, at all...), there is only a small percentage which represent the far right Christians that have the beef. You're happy to blanket everyone with it, however, even though the evidence says otherwise.

I've been living being sensitive to others, and trying to understand them, even when they do not extend the same courtesy to me. I decided I'm not doing that anymore. If someone doesn't want to even consider that I am a human who is fully entitled to equal protection of the law, I will no longer be sensitive to their "religious freedom" that has already been ruled illegal when it comes to other minority-status labels. If they don't want to consider my needs, and dismiss them as a "perversion," I have no problems dropping how far ethics have advanced in 3,000 years, that the Bible is filled with scientific flaws, their positions have already been ruled unConstitutional and illegal, and that their ways are dying out (the fact non-theism is spreading and becoming more common--globally--is the cherry on top of a well iced cake). They don't want to consider my needs, I have no problems telling them their religion has no right to define my life.

If defining your life you mean they think transgender is just a full time cross-dresser, then I assure you none of them really give a rats about your decisions. As for 3000 years, that's irrelevant... I'm speaking about the here and now. You guys will talk crap about Christianity (which has largely become moderate, largely indifferent to LGBT) and at the same time support Islam which has history of being cruel to gays, cross-dressers, transgenders, and women in modern times. Far be it from me to be a friend to the Christian faith (hint: Hail Satan), but they are the lesser of the two evils. Your efforts are largely being wasted as you attempt to snatch a cookie from the jar, but lose focus of the real enemies. There are no Christian groups advocating violence to the LGBT community, and I think your rage is misdirected.

Such underestimations will probably be the crack to exploit in 2018 and 2020. It's blind foolishness to pretend this election was the public as a whole voting generally the same way. It didn't happen like that. So, go ahead, over estimate the strength of your position. It often makes the fall harder.

System working as intended, the electors were designed to keep populous counties from railroading everyone else.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
They do, but, nevertheless, they harp on about how it's a Christian Nation and Christian majority, but when it comes time to reflect on the values, suddenly their only Christian in name only, their only a Christian on Sunday, or more bluntly they aren't a real Christian. They only cling to the "Christian Nation" when it is convenient for them, and they ditch it as soon as it starts to work against them.
You're right, lets work on changing that.
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
And we're just getting started talking about him. But already the Trump supporters keep changing the subject from Trump to Clinton and Obama.
It's like they're embarrassed to be associated with their candidate, Putin's boy Trump.
Why is that?
Tom

Putin is an awesome and exceptionally ambitious human being, and Trump is being compared to Palpatine. So yes, please continue on with this discussion for as long as you like.



 

habiru

Active Member
The Electoral College voted today, and after Texas just voted, Trump went over the 270 vote mark needed to make it official. He is expected to win a total of 306 electoral votes. Congratulations to the 45th President of the United States of America!

Yeah, I know that he is probably at some party, sitting down being bored.

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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Do people of religion, or only one religion get married? This is obviously nonsense. Most of the Republican party is fine with gay marriage (as in they just don't care, at all...), there is only a small percentage which represent the far right Christians that have the beef. You're happy to blanket everyone with it, however, even though the evidence says otherwise.
You are the company you keep. It's like the Libertarians, sure, they claim they're all about more personal and civil freedoms, but rarely do we see them lifting a finger to stop the Religious Right. Failure to act against makes one just as guilty as those who did the act.
If defining your life you mean they think transgender is just a full time cross-dresser,
I am talking about it on so many levels. Such as, the total lack of respect one gets in a such a deeply Conservative area such as rural Indiana just for not believing in the Christian god, accepting evolution, or even questioning the "hero status by default" for troops. No, in general, I've had it with trying to not brake the eggshells of Conservatives, and I've began to stomp them.
System working as intended, the electors were designed to keep populous counties from railroading everyone else.
It was created to keep the slave owning South from getting too much of an advantage just because they had a larger population due to slaves. That is also the reason the 3/5 Compromise, another relic from a world long dead and gone, is in the Constitution.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That isn't unique to Christianity, that is just humanity.
Much of humanity claims their bad ones as unfortunates. They don't declare "we are the majority and should run the show" to suddenly changing their words to "well, we're actually only a minority."
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's like the Libertarians, sure, they claim they're all about more personal and civil freedoms, but rarely do we see them lifting a finger to stop the Religious Right.
You suggest our claim of favoring personal liberty is disingenuous?
What could I possibly do that you'd ever see?
We do what we can, but we are a scant few in positions of power.
And we must counter not just the right, but also the left...those illiberals
who want a bigger government to control us to make us more "progressive".
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
That's certainly very telling, as Putin has no regards for freedom of religion, speech, association, and he takes based on long-expired Cold War bull****.
"Very telling", how exactly? What significant insights can you really assume to have gathered from a simple compliment I posted about Vladimir Putin?

 

Parchment

Active Member
The Electoral College voted today, and after Texas just voted, Trump went over the 270 vote mark needed to make it official. He is expected to win a total of 306 electoral votes. Congratulations to the 45th President of the United States of America!

Looks like there wasn't enough compelling evidence against him to subvert democracy and he might make a pretty good president, only time will tell. In the meantime.............
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tytlyf

Not Religious
What I don't get is why he's hiring all the top swamp people? Didn't he say he wasn't going to do that?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
What swap people are you referring to? Please be specific by name.

Mike Flynn is a lobbyist who lost his job giving classified information to Pakistan without approval.

Steven Mnuchin:

"In 2009, Mnuchin put together a group of billionaire investors, including George Soros and hedge-fund titan John Paulson, that bought failed California-based bank IndyMac, a big mortgage lender. The FDIC agreed to absorb the losses of the bank above a certain threshold.

The bank was renamed OneWest Bank, and Mnuchin became its chairman and CEO. The bank developed a reputation during the recession for being quick to foreclose on delinquent homeowners, closing on more than 36,000 households under Mnuchin, according the housing-advocacy group California Reinvestment Coalition. In 2011, protesters went to Mnuchin's Bel Air mansion with a sign that read, "Stop Taking Our Homes."

Betsy Devos:

"She served on the board of the Action Institute, which has supported abolishing child labor laws, and has advocated to overturn the separation of church and state. Devos’ husband, Richard Devos, co-founded the multilevel marketing pyramid scheme Amway. A School Reform Pac once directed by Betsy DeVos currently owes the state of Ohio $5.3 million in fines for violating campaign finance regulations."

Nikki Haley:

"Nikki Haley, Drumpf’s pick for U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, has a net worth of $1.6 million. In 2012, Haley was investigated while serving as South Carolina’s Governor for illegal lobbying practices."

Others in the transition team:

"As reported by The Intercept’s Lee Fang, Drumpf’s transition team was stacked with corporate lobbyists. Though at least three lobbyists were removed after the imposition of an ethics rule, those who were not listed as removed include; “adviser Eric Ueland, a Senate Republican staffer who previously lobbied for Goldman Sachs; and Transition General Counsel William Palatucci, an attorney in New Jersey whose lobbying firm represents Aetna and Verizon. Rick Holt, Christine Ciccone, Rich Bagger, and Mike Ferguson are among the other corporate lobbyists helping to manage the transition effort,” wrote Fang."

Ben Carson is an admitted attempted murderer.

And that really isn't even close to all...
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Sure, head of Exxon, Reince Priebus, Golfman Sachs, etc. All republican establishment top players.
the only possible insider I see in your list is Reince Priebus. Also I do not think there is a person by the name of Golfman Sachs in the cabinet appointments. So far you have only named three people.
Got to leave some alligators in the swamp to help the others bite the liberals arse.
 
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