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Trump ordered to pay nearly 355 million in NY fraud case.

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Ok, then it's a nice little quote mine he did.
The quote mining was yours. Where did I ever quote mine? By the way, false claims about others is rude. Just so that you know that. This goes back to where your error about Biden saying that his son died in Iraq was explained to you. It is what I offered to go over with baby steps.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
The quote mining was yours. Where did I ever quote mine? By the way, false claims about others is rude. Just so that you know that. This goes back to where your error about Biden saying that his son died in Iraq was explained to you. It is what I offered to go over with baby steps.
You really should not abuse your posts that way. You could not support any of your claims and you have supported mine.
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
How does that work in a debate forum?
The debating examples implemented by modern day political opponents are not a standard of the podium I would recommend duplicating anywhere, including internet forums.

Here are basic rules for debate:

Structure: A debate has three main components: case construction, refutation, and case rebuilding. A debate usually has five steps: introduction, statement of fact, confirmation, refutation, and conclusion.
Evidence: Speakers must be able to provide evidence or reasons to support their statements. Facts presented in a debate must be accurate.
Point of view: The team supporting the motion must not shift its point of view.
New points: Speakers may not bring up new points in a rebuttal speech.
Body language: Stand tall, shoulders back, and use your arms and hands to emphasize your points. Maintain good eye contact by looking at individuals within the audience.
Speaking: Use rhetorical devices, speak with conviction, emphasize key points, use evidence and examples, address the opposing side, maintain clarity and simplicity, and practice active listening.
Interruptions: Interrupting a speaker is forbidden. Teams lose 1 point for each interruption.
Whispering: Teams lose 1 point for whispering while another speaker is
talking.

So though we are in an informal setting, and a few of these guidelines such as those noted in Point of View are relaxed, and disregarding that there are three points not relevant to a forum, no where does it say it is appropriate and acceptable behavior to "get nasty with the truth." And actually the guidelines on Interrupting supports the unspoken request that speakers on both sides not succumb to uncouth behavior.

But, hey, well educated and experienced politicians can't abide rules either, so --- what can I say.......
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
The debating examples implemented by modern day political opponents are not a standard of the podium I would recommend duplicating anywhere, including internet forums.

Here are basic rules for debate:

Structure: A debate has three main components: case construction, refutation, and case rebuilding. A debate usually has five steps: introduction, statement of fact, confirmation, refutation, and conclusion.
Evidence: Speakers must be able to provide evidence or reasons to support their statements. Facts presented in a debate must be accurate.
Point of view: The team supporting the motion must not shift its point of view.
New points: Speakers may not bring up new points in a rebuttal speech.
Body language: Stand tall, shoulders back, and use your arms and hands to emphasize your points. Maintain good eye contact by looking at individuals within the audience.
Speaking: Use rhetorical devices, speak with conviction, emphasize key points, use evidence and examples, address the opposing side, maintain clarity and simplicity, and practice active listening.
Interruptions: Interrupting a speaker is forbidden. Teams lose 1 point for each interruption.
Whispering: Teams lose 1 point for whispering while another speaker is
talking.

So though we are in an informal setting, and a few of these guidelines such as those noted in Point of View are relaxed, and disregarding that there are three points not relevant to a forum, no where does it say it is appropriate and acceptable behavior to "get nasty with the truth." And actually the guidelines on Interrupting supports the unspoken request that speakers on both sides not succumb to uncouth behavior.

But, hey, well educated and experienced politicians can't abide rules either, so --- what can I say.......
Hmmm. I don't remember saying that I got nasty with the truth. I simply said, "Truth can get nasty sometimes", which means that people aren't always going to agree with it. People disagree with me all the time, and make personal accusations against me in reply. I can handle that, since it's a debate tactic that indicates disagreement accompanied by hurt feelings.
 
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