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Trump ordered to pay nearly 355 million in NY fraud case.

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F1fan

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Ebionite said:
No, the rule of law goes back to common law.

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise reexamined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

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The Continuing Law-Equity Distinction

: Analysis and Interpretation of the of the US Constitution
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Do you accept the rulings in Trumps legal cases?
 
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F1fan

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Brickjectivity said:
His small-government pro-public-people stance gets harder to believe as his corruption is made more well known. A lot of the excitement about him was that people believed he couldn't be bought, that the big corporations couldn't control him or tempt him.
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His authoritarian tendencies is the antithesis of small government. And his promise to use his powers to minimize the other two branches of government, and against his rivals, is even more brazen. His followers certainly don’t understand civics, but they love his politics.
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

Not of this world
Colt said:
The politically motivated trial and verdict will likely be overturned on appeal. The banks that Trump supposedly defrauded testified in his behalf.
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Will it be appealed in New York? I wouldn't get my hopes up if that were the case.
 
Laniakea

Laniakea

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Revoltingest said:
Full agreement requires a "meeting of the minds".
By misrepresenting the value of his pledged security,
there wasn't a common understanding.
Fraud isn't a crime like a "stickup".
But it's till a crime.
The lender suffered a loss by charging a lower
interest rate than would be appropriate, even if
losses from default didn't happen.
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These banks you're referring to aren't exactly small banks. Do you think they just take a person's word for what something is worth before issuing a loan and agreeing on terms, especially when tens of millions of dollars are involved? Are you going to assume that these banks didn't do their own homework first?
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Laniakea said:
It wasn't small in 2016. It won't be in 2024 either.
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You do not seem to understand. In 2016 you had the independent vote. They were fooled once, They were not fooled in 2020. And you should be following politics right now. The George Santos replacement polls showed that it was going to be a very close race in New York for his old seat. That district voted Republican for Santos. They saw who was responsible for there not being a solution to the border problem. As a result there was a big swing for the Democrats.
 
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F1fan

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Laniakea said:
These banks you're referring to aren't exactly small banks. Do you think they just take a person's word for what something is worth before issuing a loan and agreeing on terms, especially when tens of millions of dollars are involved? Are you going to assume that these banks didn't do their own homework first?
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Irrelevant. Trump used fraudulent documents to get loans. THAT is the crime.
 
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