Laniakea
Not of this world
Ever heard of free speech? (Yes, conservatives have that right as well)
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"Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies"
- Thread starter Father Heathen
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Is that what you call free speech? A former world leader calling to have other countries attacked?
That is truly out of this world.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Do you suddenly take his statements at face value?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Free speech is about protecting speech from government restriction, so how is that even relevant? How does it make what he said not incredibly stupid, reckless, and irresponsible? Free speech doesn't mean that words don't have consequences. Criticism isn't censorship.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Ok, so you voiced your opinion. Doesn't mean others have to agree with it.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So in your own opinion, is encouraging a dangerous despot known for unprovoked invasions, war crimes, human right's violations etc. to attack The U.S.'s allies a good idea?
Laniakea
Not of this world
Can you be more specific?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Huh?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Countries that carry out unprovoked invasions and carry out war crimes against civilians are very much a threat.
I just read your comment. Let me guess, it was sarcasm?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
At this point, the dignified thing to do would be to admit that his statement was indefensible and bow out.
Laniakea
Not of this world
IOW, you're saying that anything I say isn't "dignified" unless I agree with you, and then quit responding any further.
Your debate method is rather lacking.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
No, I'm saying unless you can offer a substantiated and reasoned rebuttal, then there's no point in continuing silly games just because you can't stand having your Orange Messiah subjected to critique and scrutiny.
Laniakea
Not of this world
"Orange Messiah" doesn't sound like "critique and scrutiny". Sounds more like you just have sour feelings about him, which clouds your ability to critique or scrutinize very well.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Is encouraging a dangerous despot known for unprovoked invasions, war crimes, human right's violations etc. to attack The U.S.'s allies a good idea? It's a simple "yes" or "no".
Laniakea
Not of this world
"Dangerous despot".
Is that another "critique" and "scrutiny"? Or is it another attempt to sway me to answer your question in a pre-determined way?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
It's an objective description based on observations of Putin's actions and behavior.
Laniakea
Not of this world
Sounds more like opinions to me.
Objective description would be to describe Putin as the President of Russia.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So war crimes and human rights are simply matters of opinion? So you're comfortable with the torture, rape, trafficking, and/or murder of children?
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Which makes the USA and her allies the greatest threat this century, presumably.