Trump's Complete Failure as a Business Man

[Enoch07]

It would be different if Trump had a voting record, or public service record, or something. But he doesn't.
His only credentials were his business dealings. And the shadiness of those dealings gave the voting public very good reasons to want more financial transparency from him than most people running for president.

Instead, he just kept up his record of lying and dissembling and bragging. That's why his records matter far more than most candidates.
Tom

Totally irrelevant 3 years into his first term. Considering the economy is booming, unemployment down. It's not going to change anyone's minds. It looks like a last chance attempt to grasp at straws by Dems. 2020 is lost y'all can forget about that. If 2 years ago the DNC reconstructed and started working on policy. They probably could have beaten Trump. But now with all this silliness, you'd be lucky to win any seats in Congress in the coming years, only a 50/50 chance to win after Trump leaves which is pitifully low considering usually the opposing side has a higher chance of victory after 2 terms of the other.

 

[joe1776]

I might, just depends on how I am asked. But don't play coy and act like "it's the right thing to do". Its voluntary, in order to stay that way that means sometimes someone will say no. If one person say no after a bunch have agreed to it and everyone freaks out and forces them to agree, then it's no longer voluntary.

You need to read more carefully if you want to debate intelligently. I didn't say it was the right thing to do. I said it was the smart thing to do and I explained why. If you'd like to debate that argument, let's hear it.

I wouldn't know. I'm not a Trump supporter. Didn't vote for him, don't particularly like him tbh. But he won fair and square and he's my Pres, just like when Obama won, I didn't like Obama, but he won, he's my Pres, and I back him up.

It's a free country. Do what you want.

It's the solidarity of being a U.S. citizen. Something you partisan whackos have not only forgotten, but made a mockery off.

It's a free country. I do what I want and I don't give a rat's hiney whether you approve or not.

 

[columbus]

Totally irrelevant 3 years into his first term.

I totally disagree.
Trump still has plenty of time left to sell out our nation's interests to Putin. If he isn't doing that as we speak.
Which I think he is.

Luckily for the American people, we still have hard core bytches at our backs. Like Pelosi. She's at least as smart as Trump, and way better at negotiating the Swamp.
Tom

 

[Enoch07]

. If you'd like to debate that argument, let's hear it.

I did and my post stands. Its voluntary which means you have to accept it if someone refuses. Otherwise it's no longer volhntary.

It's a free country. I do what I want and I don't give a rat's hiney whether you approve or not.

Not free enough to deny handing over your tax returns when asked to do so voluntarily, apparently.

 

[Enoch07]

Which I think he is.

The evidence in the Mueller report shows it was Obama and Hillary that was selling our interest to Russia.

I can't wait to see you parade for their arrest and conviction when the day comes.

 

[columbus]

The evidence in the Mueller report shows it was Obama and Hillary that was selling our interest to Russia.

I can't wait to see you parade for their arrest and conviction when the day comes.

I honestly don't care about them much anymore.
They're private citizens, not in or running for office.

Trump is President.
Commander in Chief.
Leader of the Free World.
Running for the presidency in 2020.

Trump is who matters.
Whataboutism is particularly egregious when it's both irrelevant and unsubstantiated. It gives me to believe that you aren't patriotic, you are a Republican. You care more about the Republicans than the USA.
That's what I am getting from this.
Tom

 

[Enoch07]

I honestly don't care about them much anymore.
They're private citizens, not in or running for office

Doesn't matter they committed the crimes while they was in office/running for office.

If the left cared about Russian interference as much as they proclaim they would want to prosecute Hillary and Obama.

Whataboutism is particularly egregious when it's both irrelevant and unsubstantiated. It gives me to believe that you aren't patriotic, you are a Republican.

Its not whataboutism, nice try at deflection.

It's in the Mueller report, Barr commented about it multiple times. Its substantiated extremely well. And it is relevant because the crimes that the left think Trump committed were actually committed by the DNC, Hillary, and Obama amongst others.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Doesn't matter they committed the crimes while they was in office/running for office.

If the left cared about Russian interference as much as they proclaim they would want to prosecute Hillary and Obama.



Its not whataboutism, nice try at deflection.

It's in the Mueller report, Barr commented about it multiple times. Its substantiated extremely well. And it is relevant because the crimes that the left think Trump committed were actually committed by the DNC, Hillary, and Obama amongst others.

Empty claims about Hillary and Obama does not excuse the crimes of Trump.

 

[columbus]

Doesn't matter they committed the crimes while they was in office/running for office.

What matters to me is the motivations and likely behavior of the people who are now in office and running for another stint.

That doesn't include Obama or Clinton.

Go ahead. Investigate away. If they actually committed a crime, fine! Punish away.

But I care more about this country, and it's current leadership and where we are going from here, than the people who used to be in charge. I care about our future, not our past.

Frankly, if there were a former official I would like to see in handcuffs and court, it would be a Bush. Ya know, the people who sold America the invasion of Iraq and wrecked the economy.

Tom

 

[Enoch07]

Empty claims about Hillary and Obama does not excuse the crimes of Trump.

They are not empty, they are being investigated by the DoJ as we speak and talked about in the Senate as we speak.

You guys can ignore reality all you want and disbelieve what I say here. But its gonna catch up to you eventually. Best thing you could do is get out in front of it, but instead you want to play denial. That's fine I'll be here to laugh in your face, again soon enough.

 

[Enoch07]

That doesn't include Obama or Clinton.

Corruption would matter to a principled person. Regardless of who is corrupted.

 

[Subduction Zone]

They are not empty, they are being investigated by the DoJ as we speak and talked about in the Senate as we speak.

You guys can ignore reality all you want and disbelieve what I say here. But its gonna catch up to you eventually. Best thing you could do is get out in front of it, but instead you want to play denial. That's fine I'll be here to laugh in your face, again soon enough.

How can I be in denial when you don't have a tenth of the evidence that there is against Trump? You appear to be projecting.

Find at least one clear law that either of them has broken. Do you think it comes even close to Trump's violation of campaign finance laws?

 

[columbus]

Corruption would matter to a principled person. Regardless of who is corrupted.

Does the president of the USA matter as much to you as private citizens?
Tom

 

[Enoch07]

How can I be in denial when you don't have a tenth of the evidence that there is against Trump?

That's where you're mistaken. All the things you think Trump did, the collusion, obstruction, and all that jazz. The Mueller report actually shows that it was the Dems doing all that illegal treasonous stuff.

So you'd be dead wrong there.

 

[Enoch07]

Does the president of the USA matter as much to you as private citizens?
Tom

Nope

 

[fantome profane]

That's where you're mistaken. All the things you think Trump did, the collusion, obstruction, and all that jazz. The Mueller report actually shows that it was the Dems doing all that illegal treasonous stuff.

So you'd be dead wrong there.

Have you read the Mueller Report for yourself? If not, you should.

 

[Enoch07]

Have you read the Mueller Report for yourself? If not, you should.

Blah blah blah same thing over and over.

Yes I have read it. The evidence of conspiracy and obstruction actually points to Hillary and Obama primarily.

Don't believe me.

Turn off your liberal lie media.

And go watch the uncut Senate meetings.

There you will see Senators talking about the corruption of the DNC, Hillary, and Obama all evidenced in the Mueller report.

But you won't, you are not only willfully ignorant of facts, but of reality as well.

 

[metis]

Doesn't matter they committed the crimes while they was in office/running for office.

If the left cared about Russian interference as much as they proclaim they would want to prosecute Hillary and Obama.

It is very unAmerican and blatantly unethical under American law to assume guilt as you are acting as prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner. Your arrogance on this and so many other things is literally nauseating.

BTW, were you one of those who shouted "Lock her up!" by chance?

 

[Enoch07]

It is very unAmerican and blatantly unethical under American law to assume guilt as you are acting as prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner. Your arrogance on this and so many other things is literally nauseating.

I can when I have evidence and facts that back me.

Objectivity was lost by the left when they decided feelings matter more than facts.

 

[Enoch07]

BTW, were you one of those who shouted "Lock her up!" by chance?

Yes and as it turns out she should have been locked up, and still may be. The Mueller report covers part of that scandal as well.

The gifts just kept coming from this thing. I knew it based on a falsehood from the beginning. But I never guessed it would uncover so much.

The power of autism is grand indeed!