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Trump's divisive Comments

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.

Then I'll be one of the first to let everyone know:

There are ways to divert psychopathic attention. Violence of this nature can be prevented and diverted.

The fear is that they will obtain and use nuclear weapons. The current goal, per your own psychopathic understanding (everyone has them), and that of ISIS, is that power be seized through bloodshed.

There is one ultimate solution. Divert the attention. They really want paradise on Earth. But, they'll also fight through the natural instinct to fear death, if they believe they'll be preserved as they are, in the hereafter. We need to give all people a society that doesn't produce the desire to submit to corrupt government. We also need to destroy those weapons we have created and amassed (nuclear obviously; hold Iran and all other governments to the same standard), and create new non-lethal weaponry.

Climate change will affect these things. People are desperate almost everywhere on Earth. They'll be even moreso as resources continue to be mismanaged, to the extent that they affect the planet itself. We are an extremely resourceful species. We can control the weather like a thermostat, if only we acted more concertedly.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
But the western cultures are not raised as violent.
So is that why mass-shootings are an everyday occurrence in America? Is that why we glorify violence and don't care about the human toll it takes? We may not blow each other up, but we'll still cheer on unhealthily enlarged men slamming into each other and causing severe damage to the body and brain and be totally unconcerned that this is going on.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
There are ways to divert psychopathic attention. Violence of this nature can be prevented and diverted.
Also, it can't be stressed enough that violent and dangerous psychopaths make up a minority of psychopaths. Just because someone is a psychopath does NOT inherently mean they want to manipulate, deceive, and harm you.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
I have a 44 mag for home security, in a house that I never have to lock.

I have a 30/30 for deer or bear that have been breaking into the house multiple times.

So, maybe you need to lock that house, and spare the life of that poor bear? :)

Ciao

- viole
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
Agreed.

These people have been murdering each other since the religion started. We are trying to stop a culture of that thinks they are peaceful, but ended up being the most violent.

What I find absurd, is that the were at one time the global center for knowledge, and have made ZERO attempt to try and return to how the religion can be practiced in a positive way.
Can't this same thing be said about the Christian faith 500 years ago?
 

outhouse

Atheistically
:facepalm:
We may not blow each other up, but we'll still cheer on unhealthily enlarged men slamming into each other and causing severe damage to the body and brain and be totally unconcerned that this is going on.

Your going to compare terrorism to football.

I'm sorry I don't have time for debates that are so liberal context is thrown out the window :facepalm:

These are your personal issues, we are not here to debate your issues
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
No. There is no poor bear, and I have a daughter to protect.


Kid cannot even play outside alone

Ok. But I like fluffy bears, they are so cute. Especially the polar bears that start venturing at my latitude. Because of global warming and all.

But I see your point. I would probably wish I had a gun myself if they start running after my kids. At least, if I knew how to shoot. I hate guns, I am afraid.

Ciao

- viole
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'm sorry I don't have time for debates that are so liberal context is thrown out the window :facepalm:
You claim was that we are not raised to be violent in the West, but that is easily proven false.
And you may want to stop assuming someone is liberal and speaking from a liberal position.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Can't this same thing be said about the Christian faith 500 years ago?

Yes it can. Definitely.

But its not the same as today or you would have noted it.

Your reply is exactly what my gripe is, primitive ideology. yes that was primitive ideology.


Its my opinion YEC should not be tolerated, and it should not be made socially acceptable by any establishment including any church. Same goes for fanaticism in islam.


There is no excuse for turning away from education and knowledge, and those that do, are a danger to society, in a varied range of dangerousness.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
So is that why mass-shootings are an everyday occurrence in America? Is that why we glorify violence and don't care about the human toll it takes? We may not blow each other up, but we'll still cheer on unhealthily enlarged men slamming into each other and causing severe damage to the body and brain and be totally unconcerned that this is going on.
Football players in the NFL get paid well and they do it by choice. I'm not sure whether that is a fair comparison or is relevant at all.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Ok. But I like fluffy bears, they are so cute. Especially the polar bears that start venturing at my latitude. Because of global warming and all.

But I see your point. I would probably wish I had a gun myself if they start running after my kids. At least, if I knew how to shoot. I hate guns, I am afraid.

Ciao

- viole

I have no issues with them, we grew up and used them for hunting.

I have also been shot at by bad people in los angeles, with shots ricocheting off the water a few feet from my head in the late 60's. That's was just random violence for no reason I'm guessing a Vietnam soldier was having flashbacks and started shooting at the whole family treading water on a hot summer day. Missed my brothers head by a foot. As we ran for the car bullets were being sprayed at us just missing each. Got the car where we had a shotgun and we could not find the guy, nor did dad try much with a family in the car.

In the 80's people came to murder a buddy to steal his smoke, and I used my gun to scare them off protecting myself as they would have killed me to. They did leave, but came back later and put 6 12 gage rounds in his back to rob him. I helped the police catch them and put them away.

So I would literally be dead, without guns.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Football players in the NFL get paid well and they do it by choice. I'm not sure whether that is a fair comparison or is relevant at all.
The NFL vehemently denies there is any link between football and permanent and disabling cognitive disfunctions. The fans cheer it all on as their behemoth-sized heroes take blow-after-blow to the head that gives many of them dementia at an age that just normally does not happen. They pay good money on tickets, merchandise, and other things to watch people become so ruined mentally that they can't hold a thought long enough to hold a conversation, or they'll be able to hold one and forget it even happened a few minutes later. The NFL says it happens, and the fans don't care that it does happen. The players do, usually, get paid very well (at the NFL level - NCAA and high school players obviously get paid nothing but they are still taking nasty blows. At least at the high school level things are being done), they do tend to know what they are in for, but it is the bloodthirsty fans who want and pay to see people's lives and health ruined, and even though it happens the NFL denies it.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
The NFL vehemently denies there is any link between football and permanent and disabling cognitive disfunctions. The fans cheer it all on as their behemoth-sized heroes take blow-after-blow to the head that gives many of them dementia at an age that just normally does not happen. They pay good money on tickets, merchandise, and other things to watch people become so ruined mentally that they can't hold a thought long enough to hold a conversation, or they'll be able to hold one and forget it even happened a few minutes later. The NFL says it happens, and the fans don't care that it does happen. The players do, usually, get paid very well (at the NFL level - NCAA and high school players obviously get paid nothing but they are still taking nasty blows. At least at the high school level things are being done), they do tend to know what they are in for, but it is the bloodthirsty fans who want and pay to see people's lives and health ruined, and even though it happens the NFL denies it.


Factually has nothing to do with the OP.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
And of course it isn't just the NFL but also other sports like boxing and MMA.
They are extremely profitable, and no one is forced to participate. There are dangers that go along with many professions. And, I for one don't want the government stepping in to force people to avoid danger at every turn in their profession.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Factually has nothing to do with the OP.
As I said, it was aimed at your claim we are not raised to be violent in the West, but this is clearly not the case. Our choices to be entertained with sport are violent, we think we have to have guns to be safe and free, and we have mass-shootings on a daily basis. People are indeed raised to believe violence is a solution, many believe it is perfectly ok to hit children, we laugh at the pain of others, and places like Chicago and Indianapolis are plagued with violence.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you are a bit out of date on this one. https://www.nflconcussionsettlement.com/
It's still not the NFL admitting there is a direct link between football and brain trauma. Rather, they have fought it and viciously slandered doctors who have came forward with their studies and data suggesting a link between the two. And it still doesn't involve the fans reacting and realizing their pleasure is another's pain and suffering. As I said, it's not the athletes, it's everyone else. I even remember on several occasions the UFC tried to claim their sport is rather safe, even though it involves people getting pounded in the head on a regular basis (I even went to school with someone who is doing his grad paper on the claim, and he is finding MMA is really hard on the brain).
 
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