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"Trump's Lies vs. Obama's"

tytlyf

Not Religious
You sure don't know the history, There was no conservative Democrats in the south.
Wrong again. A little common sense would tell you that the south has never been liberal. Conservative DemoKKKrats loved the confederate flag, slavery, states rights, etc. Guess who likes those same things today? Conservatives. It's just today they vote republican. It's not the party that labels itself, it's the people in the party that label it.
You were lied to, maybe you saw that movie by Dinesh (the felon) talking about the history of the DemoKKKratic party?
I'm sure you saw it. Notice in the entire movie there is no mention of the ideology of the party? (conservative/progressive?)
If they mentioned that, the propaganda and fake news wouldn't work.

Abraham Lincoln wasn't a conservative, he was a progressive republican in the north. Today progressives vote democratic.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Wrong again. A little common sense would tell you that the south has never been liberal. Conservative DemoKKKrats loved the confederate flag, slavery, states rights, etc. Guess who likes those same things today? Conservatives. It's just today they vote republican. It's not the party that labels itself, it's the people in the party that label it.
You were lied to, maybe you saw that movie by Dinesh (the felon) talking about the history of the DemoKKKratic party?
I'm sure you saw it. Notice in the entire movie there is no mention of the ideology of the party? (conservative/progressive?)
If they mentioned that, the propaganda and fake news wouldn't work.

Abraham Lincoln wasn't a conservative, he was a progressive republican in the north. Today progressives vote democratic.

So your trying to tell me, That Republicans to day,likes Slavery, The Confederate flag.
All the while it was Democrate Nancy Pelosi father who had some of those Confederate statues put up in the south Government buildings with Confederate flags.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Well, spluh!
Do you offer any different....the inerrant truth, perhaps?

You aren't familiar with changes in lending regulation in Americastan.
A particular problem is with existing loans, which are at risk of failing.
Regulations which force them into foreclosure have turned loans
which would likely have been salvaged into total default.

"Decent & honest" isn't good enuf for a Prez.
I expect more.
But some of his actions were dishonest & harmful, eg, program to help troubled borrowers.
They program was designed to not help those in trouble. How, you ask?
A perfect loan payment record was a requirement. Borrowers in trouble seldom had that.

So what's the explanation for such a policy?
Either Obama was a clueless dolt, who never considered how such an important program
would be implemented.....or he was dishonestly putting on a phony PR show.
Either way, not so great a Prez.
Nah!
There's a point in time when a debt becomes BAD.
The only thing to do is to close down on Bad-debts.

You would, I expect. If a debtor running out of control asked you, the lender, for a new deal with a new advance, I'm guessing that you might try plumping into the Batack Obama policy on that!
:p
You see? Actions speak louder than words. A tangible negative is sometimes needed in favour of an intangible positive.
:facepalm:

Some people like the good stuff.
(I know all those marques.)
And beyond big-brother's bother ........................
:)
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
So your trying to tell me, That Republicans to day,likes Slavery, The Confederate flag.
All the while it was Democrate Nancy Pelosi father who had some of those Confederate statues put up in the south Government buildings with Confederate flags.
Yes, conservatives like slavery and the confederate flag. Many republicans talk about how black people had it better during slavery times.
I'm assuming Nancy's father was a conservative DemoKKKrat. Today he's be a conservative republican.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Nah!
There's a point in time when a debt becomes BAD.
The only thing to do is to close down on Bad-debts.
Perhaps there's too big a language difference here.
When I point out that troubled (but not failed) loans were denied a chance to
survive by the fed, this increased the failure rate. This is what Obama did.

Let's say you've fallen behind in some payments, but you continue making them.
But government tells your bank, RBS, to get rid of trouble loans like yours.
RBS bank forecloses upon you.
You lose your home, but not the debt & interest due.
(It's reduced somewhat by proceeds from their fire sale.)
What could've been a good loan was made a bad one by the bank.

And after foreclosure, the bank (per IRS regs) declares the lost principal
& any interest as income to you, & reports this to the IRS (from 1099).
You must pay income tax on the reported amount.
You're homeless, your credit is shot, & you have a tax bill you cannot pay.
Thanx, Obama!

Foreigners & those who don't deal in loans are largely unaware
of what goes on here.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Perhaps there's too big a language difference here.
Yeah....... a big difference in 'right' and 'wrong', possibly?


Let's say you've fallen behind in some payments, but you continue making them.
But government tells your bank, RBS, to get rid of trouble loans like yours. RBS bank forecloses upon you.
That's twice you;'ve mentioned RBS in posts, which was not the bank that got fined billions, by the way.
Has RBS upset you?

You lose your home, but not the debt & interest due.
(It's reduced somewhat by proceeds from their fire sale.)
What could've been a good loan was made a bad one by the bank.
To think that for all those years Mr Obama was turning babies out on the street, no clothes or breakfast, and we thick idjits over here never heard about it.

And after foreclosure, the bank (per IRS regs) declares the lost principal
& any interest as income to you, & reports this to the IRS (from 1099).
You must pay income tax on the reported amount.
You're homeless, your credit is shot, & you have a tax bill you cannot pay.
Thanx, Obama!
I love the way that you tell the tiny part of the real story.
Are you ranting on about 'Gov funded, Gov supported, clean power gen systems with high paybacks offered' which got the paybacks halved after the investments were floated? Did you try this?

Anyway....., that happened here...............

Stop ranting, Revolting.
And the idea of you laying in bed worrying about all those babies in the streets at night ............ well, I've tried to think of that picture, but it just don't fly.

Foreigners & those who don't deal in loans are largely unaware of what goes on here.
:facepalm:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's twice you;'ve mentioned RBS in posts, which was not the bank that got fined billions, by the way.
Has RBS upset you?
Once had some loans with them.
Big battles.
Nasty folk they are.
But I prevailed.
To think that for all those years Mr Obama was turning babies out on the street, no clothes or breakfast, and we thick idjits over here never heard about it.
Not all news is heard on the news.
I love the way that you tell the tiny part of the real story.
Are you ranting on about 'Gov funded, Gov supported, clean power gen systems with high paybacks offered' which got the paybacks halved after the investments were floated? Did you try this?

Anyway....., that happened here...............

Stop ranting, Revolting.
And the idea of you laying in bed worrying about all those babies in the streets at night ............ well, I've tried to think of that picture, but it just don't fly.
:facepalm:
The last part is hard to understand.
Are you off your meds, again?
Read the labels!
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Oh really, so that's why Billy pervert boy clintion got impeach, all because it was consensual, Are you freaking kidding me.
Instead of spouting stupidity, maybe start doing your homework and start look things up for a change. Bill was impeached because he lied by claiming they didn't have sex.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Instead of spouting stupidity, maybe start doing your homework and start look things up for a change. Bill was impeached because he lied by claiming they didn't have sex.

As you just admitted Billy boy clintion did lie about having sex in the White House oval office.

Billy boy clintion, was brought up on 2 charges, one for perjury and the other one obstruction of justice. Thereby lieing that he had any doing with sexual misconduct in the White House oval office.
That now a majority of democrates are now stepping down, because of their sexual Scandals of misconduct. Oh Billy boy clintion sure set a good example for the democrates to follow. Seeing how many democrates are stepping down. Because of their sexual Scandals of misconduct.Way to go democrates.

Back about 15 to 20 years ago, Trump was a Private Citizen, he had nothing to do with politics or President at the time.
By the way just because a guy may say things in or about women, does not mean anything,
just how many men do you suppose talk about women behind closed doors to each other.
I can name alot of men, as to where I work, that on our lunch break, how they would talk about women.So it's no hidden thing.
And women are no angels, they to have talk about men, when together.

So what Trump said back 15 to 20 years ago, he was a Private Citizen at the time.and had nothing to do with politics or president at the time.
As did Billy boy clintion was President at the time.of his sexual misconduct and then lied about it, which brought 2 Charges, one for perjury and the other one obstruction of justice.

Where as Trump talk about it, Where as Bill boy clintion actually did it while being President, As did democrates who are now stepping down because of their sexual abuse towards women.
 
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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
That's to funny, That you actually believe NY times, that has been caught many times in putting out Fake news and found in Contradicting themselves.

NY times, CNN, are fake news media networks.
And you believe them.ROFL


CNN, NY Times and the Mainstream News Media, are saying that Trump's poll Rating are sinking in the polls.

But yet the Supporters of Trump are still backing Trump, So how is Trump's poll Ratings sinking? It was Trump supporters who voted for Trump and got Trump elected and are still here in Supporting Trump.

Was it not CNN, NY Times and the Mainstream News Media that said Hillary is winning the Election, But then Hillary lost.
All due to the fact that CNN, NY Times and the Mainstream News Media all lied to you all.

And you all are still falling for their lies, Now that's amazing.
Perhaps you could share some examples ....
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Billy boy clintion, was brought up on 2 charges, one for perjury and the other one obstruction of justice. Thereby lieing that he had any doing with sexual misconduct in the White House oval office.
Which is why posts like
So by all means, explain if it was consensual, Then why was Billy boy pervert clinton impeach. If it was as you say consensual. And why was the democrates and Mainstream News Media trying so hard to cover it up ?
and

So you say. Which proves nothing.You can not Impeach a President over lieing.
are demonstrably wrong. As we've kept telling you.
Tom
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The kids don't know her name now.
Honest.
BTW, I did wonder if RBS had upset you.... :)
Heh Heh!
:p
RBS was a nightmare to deal with.....a revolving door of contacts....difficult to
work with....not too bright. I was fortunate that they eventually sold my loans
at a steep discount to another company (Americastanian). The latter was a
joy to work with, & I successfully refinanced the loans with a big discount on
principal. It's great to borrow from people who treat one as a valued customer.

I'd never knowingly borrow from a government owned/run lender again...especially
a British one. Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac are also bad, but I've never borrowed
from them.
 
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