"Trump's Lies vs. Obama's"

[Faithofchristian]

Perhaps you could share some examples ....

Well if hadn't been listening to those Fake News Media, You would know all about how those Mainstream fake News Media lies about things, and then covers it all up.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Which is why posts like
and


are demonstrably wrong. As we've kept telling you.
Tom

So you say, Oh Wah,wah, Billy boy pervert clinton got caught with his pants down. And got Impeach for his perjury and obstruction of justice, for his lies about his sexual misconduct in the White House oval office as President. And now democrates are caught and are now stepping down because of their sexual Abuse towards women.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Well if hadn't been listening to those Fake News Media, You would know all about how those Mainstream fake News Media lies about things, and then covers it all up.

Please just provide an example of the things you claim.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Please just provide an example, from the "real" news.

Had you been listening about how many times, that the NY Times got caught on fabrication on alot of things they printed. As did CNN in their fabrication of their stories.
Go check it out, by putting in your search engine NY Times fabrication of stories.
So you have all the your examples you need.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Had you been listening about how many times, that the NY Times got caught on fabrication on alot of things they printed. As did CNN in their fabrication of their stories.
Go check it out, by putting in your search engine NY Times fabrication of stories.
So you have all the your examples you need.

Please provide an example of the deliberate fabrication of a story reported by CNN or the New York Times.

More than one example would be great, given that you claim this happens "on alot of things they printed." But I won't hold my breath.

 

[oldbadger]

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from them.

They're all nasty................
I haven't had a loan or mortgage for over 40 years, and so I have no credit status, but then, no credit history.
I'm off that particular radar.

Hey.......... what do you think about bit-coin? South Sea Bubble or Super Gold Mine?

 

[esmith]

Please provide an example of the deliberate fabrication of a story reported by CNN or the New York Times.

More than one example would be great, given that you claim this happens "on alot of things they printed." But I won't hold my breath.

How about a couple
CNN Corrects a Trump Story, Fueling Claims of ‘Fake News’
CNN error extends run of journalistic mishaps

 

[SkepticThinker]

How about a couple
CNN Corrects a Trump Story, Fueling Claims of ‘Fake News’
CNN error extends run of journalistic mishaps

So they ran a story, and then corrected it. And that's an example of a deliberately fake story how ... ?
If you're trying to pass off a fake story, you don't generally correct the error, do you? In this case they corrected a date.

 

[esmith]

So they ran a story, and then corrected it. And that's an example of a deliberately fake story how ... ?
If you're trying to pass off a fake story, you don't generally correct the error, do you? In this case they corrected a date.

If you break the law and are punished for doing so and apologized did you still break the law?

 

[SkepticThinker]

If you break the law and are punished for doing so and apologized did you still break the law?

I think you need to read Faithofchristian's posts again. (S)he is clearly stating that CNN, NYT, etc. deliberately fabricate "fake news" stories in order to deceive us all.

E.g.:
"Well if hadn't been listening to those Fake News Media, You would know all about how those Mainstream fake News Media lies about things, and then covers it all up."

Making an error in reporting an incorrect date and then correcting it, is not an example of the "Mainstream fake news media" lying about things and then covering them up. People who are covering "it all up" don't publicly issue corrections/retractions to their stories.

 

[esmith]

I think you need to read Faithofchristian's posts again. (S)he is clearly stating that CNN, NYT, etc. deliberately fabricate "fake news" stories in order to deceive us all.

E.g.:
"Well if hadn't been listening to those Fake News Media, You would know all about how those Mainstream fake News Media lies about things, and then covers it all up."

Making an error in reporting an incorrect date and then correcting it, is not an example of the "Mainstream fake news media" lying about things and then covering them up. People who are covering "it all up" don't publicly issue corrections/retractions to their stories.

The problem is that the media, and especially the anti-Trump media, want to believe any story that makes the President look bad and will print it and "hope" that is true. When they get caught their excuse is "we wanted to be first". It used to be that a news media would check out a story especially when it comes from "unsubstantiated" sources. In addition no matter if you correct a story you are still going to be blamed. Point, what do you think of Fox News. (yeah that's what I though).

 

[SkepticThinker]

The problem is that the media, and especially the anti-Trump media, want to believe any story that makes the President look bad and will print it and "hope" that is true. When they get caught their excuse is "we wanted to be first". It used to be that a news media would check out a story especially when it comes from "unsubstantiated" sources. In addition no matter if you correct a story you are still going to be blamed. Point, what do you think of Fox News. (yeah that's what I though).

FaithofChristian's assertion has been noted. Getting a date wrong and fabricating stories whole cloth are quite different things.

 

[metis]

Where as Trump talk about it, Where as Bill boy clintion actually did it while being President

Sorry to bust your bubble but Trump did a lot more than just talk about it, and it's in his own words on this and numerous other matters, with the Access Hollywood recording being only one such source.

But I have to give you some credit that at least on the above post, you actually finally did at least some homework.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Sorry to bust your bubble but Trump did a lot more than just talk about it, and it's in his own words on this and numerous other matters, with the Access Hollywood recording being only one such source.

But I have to give you some credit that at least on the above post, you actually finally did at least some homework.

But at the time Trump had nothing to do with politics nor was Trump President.

Unlike Billy boy pervert clinton was in politics and President at the time. Nice yry

 

[metis]

But at the time Trump had nothing to do with politics nor was Trump President.

That really doesn't change things, plus more and more info is coming out day by day on Trump & Co. with the issues of obstruction of justice and collusion, which is far more of a serious problematic than what Billy did.

What Trump is doing is what the fascists and Communists have done, with his attacks on the FBI, the media, Mueller, etc. And he says he's going to basically purge the FBI, and the EPA is already being purged, and his administration has even issued a listing of words that the CDC can no longer use. As long as this country has been here, these have never been done before. Recently, he said that the leaders of Russia, China, and Turkey are leaders that he admires! Got that!

This guy is a menace to our democracy, but his groupies can't see it.

 

[Faithofchristian]

That really doesn't change things, plus more and more info is coming out day by day on Trump & Co. with the issues of obstruction of justice and collusion, which is far more of a serious problematic than what Billy did.

What Trump is doing is what the fascists and Communists have done, with his attacks on the FBI, the media, Mueller, etc. And he says he's going to basically purge the FBI, and the EPA is already being purged, and his administration has even issued a listing of words that the CDC can no longer use. As long as this country has been here, these have never been done before. Recently, he said that the leaders of Russia, China, and Turkey are leaders that he admires! Got that!

This guy is a menace to our democracy, but his groupies can't see it.

Yeah, there's coming out more, But its All Fake News Media propaganda. And to think people are falling for it. What a Joke

 

[Revoltingest]

They're all nasty................
I haven't had a loan or mortgage for over 40 years, and so I have no credit status, but then, no credit history.
I'm off that particular radar.

Hey.......... what do you think about bit-coin? South Sea Bubble or Super Gold Mine?

Being a lender & borrower is a real window into the economy.

Bitcoin looks very risky to me.
Problems.....
- Highly speculative
- At risk of losing value due to regulation.
- Same because of potential cryptocurrency competition
- If I bought in, its value would plummet.

The others I don't know.

 

[leibowde84]

The problem is Trump believes his own lies. That's why he continues to repeat them.

See, I don't think he believes them, as he wouldn't contradict himself so much. I think he doesn't believe it matters whether something is true or not, so long as he feels it will help him there and then. Problem is, he's not very good at it. Only his band of loyal followers seem to truly fall for his brand of "facts". But, I think a lot of them simply don't see it as a problem. They think it's worth it if it will help him achieve his agenda. It is a truly sad state of affairs.

 

[leibowde84]

It's not what the Republicans were saying, but for those who wanted NAFTA passed, giving the White House to a "Democrat" (and with Clinton, he was a wolf in sheep's clothing) was a small price to pay.

What presidential actions of Clinton's did you disagree with so fervently (apart from the scandals and what not, of course)?

 

[leibowde84]

They're all nasty................
I haven't had a loan or mortgage for over 40 years, and so I have no credit status, but then, no credit history.
I'm off that particular radar.

Hey.......... what do you think about bit-coin? South Sea Bubble or Super Gold Mine?

I think that if you didn't get in when the getting was good, you are out of luck. I do know someone who has grown their retirement more than 2000%, but he got in right when they came out. The price now seems to be either stabilizing or getting ready to drop, but that is just the impression I get. I'm no expert.