Shadow Wolf
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I don't think it will necessarily resort to your last sentence, but I suspect still "bad acid trip government" might end up describing it.
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
A mandateeless win is what it is.
Soandso
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Just another grift for him to make money off of. It works. There's a sucker born every minute
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Clizby Wampuscat
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So no data then on how many are racist. ok.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Mentioning a recent thread here isn't "no data."
I love it. He's not stupid. He's playing the media like a fiddle. Anyone would've been able to guess that his supporters would love him even more after this. You only had to take a look at Twitter last night to get a look at that. He has a look of defiance on his face. There's pics of Churchill with a similar look on his face. That may be on purpose, as that "never surrender" slogan recalls Churchill's famous "we will never surrender" speech. Just something I've noticed. He's still the single most popular politicial figure in the US.
Also just a really stupid slogan as this picture was taken shortly after Donald Trump did surrender at the Fulton county jail.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Electorial results reflect the will of the people and the government meets it by honoring those results. Trump attempted to cling to power dispite getting voted out.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
And closer to 315 lbs. They could not have weighed him.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
People have ran for President from jail. They have never won. But if by some fluke he did win it would raise all sorts of legal issues.
PureX
Veteran Member
Trump would surely take a presidential win as carte blanche for his new dictatorship. And he'd do exactly what all dictators do: he'd fill the government with thugs and cronies and rig it so he couldn't be deposed.
But, for one, I really don't think the American people are stupid enough to elect him. And for another, even if they did, I really don't think they would put up with his self-appointed dictatorship for long. He and his cronies would end up hanging from lamp posts as all that ilk eventually do, since we would have no justice system left to adjudicate them. But at that point the whole system would be in such a mess that it could easily just collapse into chaos and lawlessness and trigger a global economic disaster. We aren't all so stupid that we can't see it coming, or so weak that we couldn't put a stop to it fairly quickly. So I'm not really that worried about it.
I think Trump is already done. But he still makes the media big money so they won't just let him fade into the trash bin of history. And he still knows how to play them like a fiddle so they just keep on jumping to the bait.
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So he's only pretending to be a feckless inept oaf as a "4D chess" move?
This is trumps actual mug shot. He looks so angry
Has a president or former president ever had a mug shot before this?
Me looking at the server in a restaurant when it's been more than 10 minutes since I ordered.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
But you did not mention another thread. Which thread?
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
I agree. Could he pardon himself? Do you let him out of jail for 4 years so he can be president as the people want?
Why would anyone want a criminal president? That is the question. And let’s not forget that the majority of citizens have voted for Trumps opponents.
A Trump mug shot....
Wandering Monk
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Presidential pardons apply to FEDERAL crimes only. They cannot not be given for STATE crimes.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Not from state crimes. A President cannot pardon someone for state offenses. And I am nowhere near being a constitutional lawyer so I have no idea whether he could pardon himself of federal crimes. If he had not been convicted yet of federal crimes he could probably put those cases on hold as the head of the Executive Branch.
Subduction Zone
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It is funny that you think that there is still some hope for ardent Trumpistas. I know. I know. I am overly optimistic myself far too often to complain. What one needs to remember is that Presidential elections are usually decided by the undecided voters, and it looks very bad for Trump from the standpoint of independents.
In battleground Arizona, independent voters decry Trump
Mark Clarcq is an independent voter in the presidential battleground state of Arizona. In 2016 he cast his ballot for Donald Trump, but as the former Republican president appeared at a Georgia jail on Thursday on criminal charges of trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election, Clarcq said...
And worse yet, when it comes to believing that Trump did something illegal that belief has crossed the fifty percent majority line. If one adds in the percentage of people that think that he did something unethical but not illegal the number is 78%. Those remaining delusional 32% are probably almost all Republicans and Trump supporters. Trump is the leader in candidates, but has a plurality in that matter, not a majority.
Majority of Americans believe Trump has done ‘something illegal’: poll
A majority of Americans believe former President Trump has done “something illegal” or “unethical,” according to a new poll. The NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist National Poll releas…
thehill.com
The NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist National Poll released Friday, found that 51 percent of Americans believe the former president has done “something illegal,” 27 percent said he’s done something “unethical,” but “not illegal” and 19 percent said he’s done “nothing wrong.”
Now if I was a die hard Democrat and saw all of these numbers I would be hoping that he would maintain his lead in Republican circles. He is making it so that it will be very difficult for any Republican can get elected even if he bows out. He has no chance when one considers the independent voter.