Trump's Racism...Is that All it is?

[Kapalika]

So uh, I have family and even neighbors who are landlords (one owns literally about 8 houses) and I've talked with them a lot about it and I'm usually on the up and up of the law as I've essentially sub leased a few times or helped others with finding apartments.

It appears to me Trump is dealing primarily with the reality of demographics, not race.

Using housing as an example, would you hire out welfare recipients if your a landlord? Is there any landlords in RF land? Does it make you somehow bigoted and racist if you refuse to rent?

That's blatantly illegal if they receive SSI or SSDI. I don't know what people mean by "welfare" but they usually mean disability as far as I can tell (and sometimes food stamps ect). The American with Disabilities Act protects disabled people which includes those who get SSDI and SSI from the SSA.

Let's face it, welfare recipients do not have a very good reputation with maintaining apartments, Many landlords require references and that their particular about who they are willing to rent out their property to, is that being racist and bigoted too?

You're just talking out of your butt. Where do you base this assumption? Since it's just that and not at all an indication of reality. Most people on "welfare" are not homeless and actually live with family or roommates to cut the cost. Actually this is true of most poor people not just those on "welfare".

Because you're concerned about your property? There's plenty of State housing to go around,

BUAHAHAHAHA IS this a joke???? So wait times of a year plus is "plenty"?! or more than that in other higher population areas???

and even then governments are particular at times concerning demographics with whom and where they place people.

They don't place people based on demographics in housing projects SFAIK and I won't accept that assertion without sufficent proof. I don't know where you've gotten that idea.

I'm sure plenty of dirt (not that there is any shortage of material) could be dug up on them too that paints them as bigoted and racist.

What about the countless times Trump had made racist remarks and refused to rent based on people's race? He had a policy of this actually that at times at least were similar to the old housing laws that said black people couldn't buy houses in nice neighborhoods.

 

[bobhikes]

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2018

Given his history, I think it's pretty conclusive that Trump is a racist, but do you think he's also a White Supremacist? Why or why not?

For a while now there has been a new type of Racist I don't know if its been termed yet. President Poop head is a good example. In private they are full blown racists but in public they comply to standard if there is financial gain to be gotten. If there is no gain or worse a loss the racism will show through in public. This is rather problematic because at times they can appear very non-racist. Like President poop head their primary goal is money but when they need someone to blame it will always be the immigrants. When I was young I was a non-confrontational white male so I have been privileged to a lot as an adult I am more confrontational so they stay away from me but President poop head and the poop kissing party and poop news proves to me they still exist in a big way.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I see you are a Zen Buddhist. As such, if you are a good Buddhist, you cannot differentiate between legal or illegal. Why? Because the Lotus Sutra teaches that all living beings possess the world of Buddhahood. Thus to label, a person, either positive or negative, is like smearing dung on your wall and calling it paint and beautiful.

Zen people have a peculiar habit of speaking two sides out of a no sided mouth.

I think Haiti as a country needs help. Running away from trouble isn't always the best solution. A day is going to have to come were Haitians will need to start taking back their country instead of simply running to other countries to get away from it all.

Taking in people is nice, give them a place to stay and hot meals to eat, it's a good feeling, but it's not a realistic solution past a certain point. Things need to be addressed and hard decisions to make, sometimes at cost.

One thing for certain we simply can't take in an entire country of people no matter how much our heartstrings get tugged.

The best thing to do from a Buddhist perspective is to teach people how to correct their own issues and problems. Stay awhile, and then go back home and make some lifelong changes.

So does that give you the right to tar everyone from there with the same brush and disparage them?

Let's say I was an employer and you were applying for a job, and on your CV it listed your place of birth, and I responded by rejecting your application by saying "Why would I employ anyone from that ****hole?"

Is that purely a denigration of the place, or is it a denigration of both the place and the people from it?


The issue is Trump disparaging an entire nation of people, not immigration policy.

I won't allow you to control the subject and distract from the issue. I can make that clearer if needs be.

If it is at you say then please answer one question, "Why is Canada being so indifferent as well to incoming Haitians"?

Is Prime Minister Trudeau a racist?

I think this is all more about language and political correctness in throwing around terms like racism and all that in regards to a man that simply speaks his mind and is not afraid of what people think and say about him and again blowing things all out of proportion more than what it really is.

 

[Twilight Hue]

For a while now there has been a new type of Racist I don't know if its been termed yet. President Poop head is a good example. In private they are full blown racists but in public they comply to standard if there is financial gain to be gotten. If there is no gain or worse a loss the racism will show through in public. This is rather problematic because at times they can appear very non-racist. Like President poop head their primary goal is money but when they need someone to blame it will always be the immigrants. When I was young I was a non-confrontational white male so I have been privileged to a lot as an adult I am more confrontational so they stay away from me but President poop head and the poop kissing party and poop news proves to me they still exist in a big way.

Well poopy you then. ;0)

 

[ImmortalFlame]

If it is at you say then please answer one question, "Why is Canada being so indifferent as well to incoming Haitians"?

Is Prime Minister Trudeau a racist?

I think this is all more about language and political correctness in throwing around terms like racism and all that in regards to a man that simply speaks his mind and is not afraid of what people think and say about him and again blowing things all out of proportion more than what it really is.

The issue is Donald Trump disparaging an entire nation of people.

The issue is NOT immigration policy. The policy (or policies) are not what this subject is about - it is about the disparaging nature of Trump's COMMENTS and how they reflect upon his nature and his conduct.

I will not allow you to control the topic of discussion to distract from the actual problem. Deal with the issue being raised.

 

[Twilight Hue]

They don't place people based on demographics in housing projects SFAIK and I won't accept that assertion without sufficent proof. I don't know where you've gotten that idea.

Snippet from US Department of Housing and Urban Development.....

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While racial segregation in public housing persists, there is some evidence that it has declined over the past two decades. Eleven percent of all sampled public housing agencies (PHAs) were classified as highly segregated in 1993. Segregation was most severe among the largest PHAs; however, the average index of segregation among the Nation's largest PHAs showed a decrease of 6 percent between 1977 and 1993. According to HUD's analysis, the most accurate predictors of segregation are those associated with the demography and racial distribution of the surrounding metropolitan region rather than with the characteristics of the PHA.

Yet, despite the slow easing of racial segregation in public housing, the report found that most African-American public housing residents continue to live in disproportionately minority neighborhoods, while white public housing residents usually live in predominantly white neigborhoods. These communities tend to be further differentiated by income, as a majority of African-American public housing residents live in poverty-concentrated neighborhoods, while their white counterparts live in more affluent areas.

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Full Source here....

The Location and Racial Composition of Public Housing in the United States | HUD USER

 

[Twilight Hue]

The issue is Donald Trump disparaging an entire nation of people.

The issue is NOT immigration policy. The policy (or policies) are not what this subject is about - it is about the disparaging nature of Trump's COMMENTS and how they reflect upon his nature and his conduct.

I will not allow you to control the topic of discussion to distract from the actual problem. Deal with the issue being raised.

The rescinding of immigration protection is where the whole entire freaking story stems from!

All this race tripe BS coming out of the mouths of leftists comes as a result from Trump rescinding immigration protection with Trump style™ commentary.

It takes a ******* country to make it own citizens flee to another country which ISN'T a racist statement disparaging an entire people themselves. Get over it already.

Geez Louise man.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The rescinding of immigration protection is where the whole entire freaking story stems from!

No, the story comes from Trump allegedly referring to a number of countries as "****holes" and asking why America should be accepting immigrants from "****hole countries".

Why are you so desperate to change the subject? There's obviously something you're trying to run away from.

All this race tripe BS coming out of the mouths of leftists comes as a result from Trump rescinding immigration protection with Trump style™ commentary.

So you in no way think that Trump's comments disparaging multiple countries of people are relevant to discussions of whether or not Trump is a disrespectful bigot?

It takes a ******* country to make it own citizens flee to another country which ISN'T a racist statement disparaging an entire people themselves. Get over it already.

Does that give him the right to disparage all people from that country?

 

[Twilight Hue]

No, the story comes from Trump allegedly referring to a number of countries as "****holes" and asking why America should be accepting immigrants from "****hole countries".

Why are you so desperate to change the subject? There's obviously something you're trying to run away from.


So you in no way think that Trump's comments disparaging multiple countries of people are relevant to discussions of whether or not Trump is a disrespectful bigot?


Does that give him the right to disparage all people from that country?

Do good countries make their citizens flee to another country? No. I don't think so.

******* countries however, make their citizens flee to another country.

From how it appears to me, that's why they are called ******* countries.

Did Trump directly call the migrants themselves ********s or was it those countries themselves?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If it is at you say then please answer one question, "Why is Canada being so indifferent as well to incoming Haitians"?

Is Prime Minister Trudeau a racist?

What makes you think that Canada is being indifferent to incoming Haitians?

 

[BSM1]

I understand that there is a video of Trump actually eating a baby a few years back.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What makes you think that Canada is being indifferent to incoming Haitians?

Migrants Fleeing to Canada Learn Even a Liberal Nation Has Limits

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Do good countries make their citizens flee to another country? No. I don't think so.

He disparaged the people FROM the country - not purely the country itself.

******* countries however, make their citizens flee to another country.

From how it appears to me, that's why they are called ******* countries.

Did Trump directly call the migrants themselves ********s or was it those countries themselves?

He asked why America should accept immigrants from "****hole countries", thus indicating part of their value or worth is determined by their nationality.

Again, if I read your CV and, after looking at your country of birth, decided not to hire you because "why should I hire someone from a ****hole country?", is that disparagement of the country you come from, or a disparagement of both you AND the country you came from?

 

[Skipper]

The best thing to do from a Buddhist perspective is to teach people how to correct their own issues and problems. Stay awhile, and then go back home and make some lifelong changes.



If it is at you say then please answer one question, "Why is Canada being so indifferent as well to incoming Haitians"?

Is Prime Minister Trudeau a racist?

I think this is all more about language and political correctness in throwing around terms like racism and all that in regards to a man that simply speaks his mind and is not afraid of what people think and say about him and again blowing things all out of proportion more than what it really is.

1. I see nothing wrong with teaching people to fish. But some need to be fed until they learn.

2. Canada is not the subject. Trump and his eugenic racism is.

 

[Phantasman]

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2018

Given his history, I think it's pretty conclusive that Trump is a racist, but do you think he's also a White Supremacist? Why or why not?

Most people confuse racism with cultures. If Trump considers a culture (theocracy) detrimental to American Constitutional values, the ignorant see the people under those values rather than the policies that created them.

If he limits the inclusions that created the turmoil that has created so much trouble in other cultures (Islam, Haitian, etc.) he branded as someone who hates the people rather than the culture they follow that led to the problem in the first place, It's a choice to assimilate into our culture from seeing the mistakes your own created.

Things like Sharia Law and Voodoo has no place in the American culture. If you desire such, there are plenty of nations that will allow those practices.

 

[Stevicus]

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2018

Given his history, I think it's pretty conclusive that Trump is a racist, but do you think he's also a White Supremacist? Why or why not?

I agree that he is, although to be fair, a lot of people at his level in society are pretty racist, but they're just able to hide it better and fool themselves and others into thinking that they're more "enlightened." Whenever one hears liberals talk about the "third world" or the "developing world," they're saying pretty much the same thing as "****hole countries," but just in a slightly nicer way. Elite liberals and conservatives are two sides of the same coin, finding varied and different ways of expressing the same "white man's burden," which is a supremacist concept.

Whenever liberals talk about immigrants coming here to seek a better life or to do the jobs Americans won't do, they're expressing the same sentiment. Those who make money off of globalism are exploiting human beings (not much different than the cotton plantation owners of yesteryear), yet they pat themselves on the back for being more enlightened than their forefathers.

Even lily-white liberal Sweden, which prides itself on being so much more enlightened and progressive than the "backward" rednecks from America, comes up with something like this:

They sure got a rude awakening over that one. How clueless can anyone get?

Tony Montana summed it quite well:

Spoiler: Offensive Language: "Say goodnight to the bad guy"

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Migrants Fleeing to Canada Learn Even a Liberal Nation Has Limits

The story described how every Haitian who crosses the border illegally gets their refugee claim reviewed and is allowed to stay if tge claim is valid.

So again: what makes you think that Canada is being indifferent to incoming Haitians?

 

[Twilight Hue]

1. I see nothing wrong with teaching people to fish. But some need to be fed until they learn.

2. Canada is not the subject. Trump and his eugenic racism is.

Sorry for the Canadian part. For some reason I'm having a little difficulty posting.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Sorry for the Canadian part. For some reason I'm having a little difficulty posting.

If you don't mind, I'd still like you to back up or apologize for your insulting insinuations about my country.

 

[Kapalika]

Snippet from US Department of Housing and Urban Development.....

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While racial segregation in public housing persists, there is some evidence that it has declined over the past two decades. Eleven percent of all sampled public housing agencies (PHAs) were classified as highly segregated in 1993. Segregation was most severe among the largest PHAs; however, the average index of segregation among the Nation's largest PHAs showed a decrease of 6 percent between 1977 and 1993. According to HUD's analysis, the most accurate predictors of segregation are those associated with the demography and racial distribution of the surrounding metropolitan region rather than with the characteristics of the PHA.

Yet, despite the slow easing of racial segregation in public housing, the report found that most African-American public housing residents continue to live in disproportionately minority neighborhoods, while white public housing residents usually live in predominantly white neigborhoods. These communities tend to be further differentiated by income, as a majority of African-American public housing residents live in poverty-concentrated neighborhoods, while their white counterparts live in more affluent areas.

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Full Source here....

The Location and Racial Composition of Public Housing in the United States | HUD USER

This was released in 1994 and it's data is from 1977 to 1993. So the most recent source you gave is twenty-four years old. And it was 11 percent with no indication of that being from policy.

If we could find some indication that this was policy or that in practice there was more segregation since then you'd have a point but so far I've not seen evidence of that.

Also you didn't address the other things I said.