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U.S. Ban On Incandescent Light Bulbs Starts Next Week: Here’s What To Know

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Fluorescents suck though.
They're difficult to dispose of properly because of
the form of mercury used to coat the inside of the
bulb. They also have flickering problems.
And they're far less efficient than LEDs.
So the market itself is phasing out fluorescent lights.
But they make that interesting pop sound when they shatter.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I've not found life to be as great as claimed.
Still, it's pretty darned good.

Ive not counted, nor do i know how they test them to make the claim.

But unlike incandescent or florescenct we've never (yet) had to replace one.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Thoughts?

U.S. Ban On Incandescent Light Bulbs Starts Next Week: Here’s What To Know


"The Biden Administration will implement a ban on incandescent light bulbs starting next week in favor of energy-efficient bulbs, following a yearslong bipartisan effort to phase out the bulbs after earlier regulations and standards were blocked by former President Donald Trump.

The Department of Energy approved new rules for light bulbs last year that will take effect on August 1, including a new minimum standard for light bulbs at 45 lumens—or brightness—per watt, an increase over the average 12 to 18 lumens per watt for incandescent bulbs.

Retailers will be prohibited from selling any bulbs—including incandescent bulbs—that don’t match the new standard, though households using any existing bulb that does not meet the standard will not be required to stop using them.

The decision was meant to conserve energy and “help consumers save on their energy bills,” as more energy-efficient bulbs—like LEDs—use at least 75% less energy and last up to 25 times longer than incandescent bulbs, according to the department.

An effort to phase out less efficient bulbs was initiated by former President George W. Bush, whose Energy Independence and Security Act in 2007 called for household light bulbs to have “about 25% greater efficiency,” though it did not outright ban incandescent bulbs, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.

Former President Barack Obama added two new regulations to the act in 2017, which would have effectively phased out incandescent bulbs and other specialty bulbs, like candle-shaped bulbs used in chandeliers, by January 2020, according to the EPA.

The Department of Energy later blocked the regulations during Trump’s presidency in 2019, after Trump—who said energy-efficient bulbs Americans were “being forced to use” made him “look orange”—advocated against them and other environmental regulations."

The problem I have is anyone with common sense can see how the new bulbs are more energy efficiency and will save you money. Why does big brother need to interfere with the adults in a free market making an easy choice? It can lead simply by providing good information, instead needing to put a boot on the throat of the citizens. The Left cannot help become bullies, who need to treat people like criminal morons, they have to care for.

If I recall, the government first wanted to replace incandescent bulbs with the more efficient compact fluorescent bulbs, which were filled with mercury, to poison the people. This is typical government boneheads at work. They always fix one problem, by creating a new future problem, so government can expand in more directions. Now you are on the disposal watch list for using those dangerous bulbs, the government shook you down to buy, while acting like Government just woke up yesterday, and had nothing to do with that. This has Lefty all over it. Notice how the article leaves out the bonehead move and government expansion facts. It must be bonehead approved.

My guess is this behavior is more consistent with insider trading by government officials; stock market. The tampering in the free market, forces predictable winners and losers for buying and selling. If they cared about people, they would not have created a worse problem with mercury. Now there is a new predictable loser CPL and a new LED winner, while the compact florescent problem they created gives specialty jobs to Left Wing connected mafia waste disposal companies in the US.

The biggest problem most people have in terms of critical thinking is accept things as framed. They fail to look at the bigger picture, that can create better context for the distraction framing. One gets sucked into a side street, and is made to forget about the Main Street from wince you departed. The Main Street exposes them for what they are.
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The problem I have is anyone with common sense can see how the new bulbs are more energy efficiency and will save you money. Why does big brother need to interfere with the adults in a free market making an easy choice? It can lead simply by providing good information, instead needing to put a boot on the throat of the citizens. The Left cannot help become bullies, who need to treat people like criminal morons, they have to care for.

If I recall, the government first wanted to replace incandescent bulbs with the more efficient compact fluorescent bulbs, which were filled with mercury, to poison the people. This is typical government boneheads at work. They always fix one problem, by creating a new future problem, so government can expand in more directions. Now you are on the disposal watch list for using those dangerous bulbs, the government shook you down to buy, while acting like Government just woke up yesterday, and had nothing to do with that. This has Lefty all over it. Notice how the article leaves out the bonehead move and government expansion facts. It must be bonehead approved.

My guess is this behavior is more consistent with insider trading by government officials; stock market. The tampering in the free market, forces predictable winners and losers for buying and selling. If they cared about people, they would not have created a worse problem with mercury. Now there is a new predictable loser CPL and a new LED winner, while the compact florescent problem they created gives specialty jobs to Left Wing connected mafia waste disposal companies in the US.

The biggest problem most people have in terms of critical thinking is accept things as framed. They fail to look at the bigger picture, that can create better context for the distraction framing. One gets sucked into a side street, and is made to forget about the Main Street from wince you departed. The Main Street exposes them for what they are.

So giving up one profitable item to replace it with another, much longer lasting item is down to insider trading?

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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Ive not counted, nor do i know how they test them to make the claim.

But unlike incandescent or florescenct we've never (yet) had to replace one.
I replace them regularly.
(I have so darn many.)
But still far far better than fluroescents.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Remember that I have many buildings
& storage units. So my experience
won't be that of your typical consumer.

My thoughts are that storage units don't often use lights except when storing, unstoring (new word?) Or when some idiot forgets to turn off the light, thus costing you more in electricity charges
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
My thoughts are that storage units don't often use lights except when storing, unstoring (new word?) Or when some idiot forgets to turn off the light, thus costing you more in electricity charges
Some units have lights.
All hallways have lights.
Buildings have lights all around
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Remember the song "You Light My Life"? Well, a local radio jockey here in the Detroit area [Dick Purtan] slightly altered the lyrics, so it went "You light up my wife when I'm not around...".
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Thoughts?

U.S. Ban On Incandescent Light Bulbs Starts Next Week: Here’s What To Know


"The Biden Administration will implement a ban on incandescent light bulbs starting next week in favor of energy-efficient bulbs, following a yearslong bipartisan effort to phase out the bulbs after earlier regulations and standards were blocked by former President Donald Trump.

The Department of Energy approved new rules for light bulbs last year that will take effect on August 1, including a new minimum standard for light bulbs at 45 lumens—or brightness—per watt, an increase over the average 12 to 18 lumens per watt for incandescent bulbs.

Retailers will be prohibited from selling any bulbs—including incandescent bulbs—that don’t match the new standard, though households using any existing bulb that does not meet the standard will not be required to stop using them.

The decision was meant to conserve energy and “help consumers save on their energy bills,” as more energy-efficient bulbs—like LEDs—use at least 75% less energy and last up to 25 times longer than incandescent bulbs, according to the department.

An effort to phase out less efficient bulbs was initiated by former President George W. Bush, whose Energy Independence and Security Act in 2007 called for household light bulbs to have “about 25% greater efficiency,” though it did not outright ban incandescent bulbs, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.

Former President Barack Obama added two new regulations to the act in 2017, which would have effectively phased out incandescent bulbs and other specialty bulbs, like candle-shaped bulbs used in chandeliers, by January 2020, according to the EPA.

The Department of Energy later blocked the regulations during Trump’s presidency in 2019, after Trump—who said energy-efficient bulbs Americans were “being forced to use” made him “look orange”—advocated against them and other environmental regulations."

The Canadian Government phased them out back in 2014 here. Seems the US is a bit behind the times (again). :shrug:
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Halogen lights suck.
Waste electricity & are fire hazard.

I've been thru all phases of lighting.....
Incandescent
T-12 fluroescent (magnetic ballast)
T-8 fluorescent (electronic ballast)
T-5 fluroescent (electronic ballast)
CFL
Mercury vapor
Sodium, both high-pressure & low-pressure
LED

The marketplace led me to more
& more efficient solutions.
Halogen ... are those the ones I used to burn my hand on all the time?
 
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