U.S. Ban On Incandescent Light Bulbs Starts Next Week: Here’s What To Know

[Revoltingest]

From my understanding unless it is banned by the Constitution everything else can be regulated by the government. Sometimes there are squabbles over which parts of government can do things. For example are they national issues or state issues? There are a lot of rights that can be extracted from the Amendments, but I doubt if one can find the right to buy incandescent bulbs in there.

I have a different understanding.
The fed can do what is authorized by the Constitution,
eg, regulating interstate commerce. To seize powers
that aren't enumerated risks giving someone like
Trump more power than I'd like.
Unauthorized things are left to the states.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is my analysis.


That is my analysis.











Ok, I am feeling generous. I will give you a little bit more, but only if you promise to be good.


"All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States."

Congress has the power to make laws. Nothing says those laws cannot ban a consumer products.

There is lots of precedent (I alluded to some) of Congress and/or State govenment, passing laws that ban consumer products. The Supreme court has not declared these laws to be unconstitutional.

The constitution does prohibit Congress from banning guns, and from establishing religion. If they wanted to prohibit Congress from banning consumer products, they could have and would have. They didn't. Not yet anyway.

Does this mean you believe there's no limitation
to just constitutionally enumerated powers?
So Congress could ban eating meat, ban abortions,
ban elective surgery, etc, etc?
Ref....

Enumerated powers (United States) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The 28th Amendment has not been passed yet.

28th Amendment
A Corporatocracy being necessary to keep the rich rich and the poor poor, the right to sell dangerous and inefficient crap shall not be infringed.

You're sounding rather class warfare there, Komrade.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have a different understanding.
The fed can do what is authorized by the Constitution,
eg, regulating interstate commerce. To seize powers
that aren't enumerated risks giving someone like
Trump more power than I'd like.
Unauthorized things are left to the states.

Neither of us are legal scholars and I do not recall any manufacturers rushing to court to challenge this law.

And it ticks me off that I cannot remember the name of the company that I used to get incandescent bulbs from. I found one in my house , it is still working and I closed my store almost 20 years ago.

 

[Father Heathen]

All they know how to do is ban things.

Like reproductive rights, cannabis, LGBT rights, library books, drag shows, etc ?

Oh, wait. Looks like you done goofed, son.

 

[fantome profane]

Does this mean you believe there's no limitation
to just constitutionally enumerated powers?
So Congress could ban eating meat, ban abortions,
ban elective surgery, etc, etc?
Ref....

Yes. I am not saying I like it, but that is the reality. That is why elections matter and you really should stop voting for morons.

Now that the Supreme Court has rejected the right to privacy argument, Congress can ban abortions. They can ban any medial proceedure. They can ban divorse, they can ban controception, they can ban same sex or mixed race marriage. And yes, they can ban bacon.

If that scares you, and it should, stop voting for morons!

 

[InChrist]

Thoughts?

U.S. Ban On Incandescent Light Bulbs Starts Next Week: Here’s What To Know


"The Biden Administration will implement a ban on incandescent light bulbs starting next week in favor of energy-efficient bulbs, following a yearslong bipartisan effort to phase out the bulbs after earlier regulations and standards were blocked by former President Donald Trump.

The Department of Energy approved new rules for light bulbs last year that will take effect on August 1, including a new minimum standard for light bulbs at 45 lumens—or brightness—per watt, an increase over the average 12 to 18 lumens per watt for incandescent bulbs.

Retailers will be prohibited from selling any bulbs—including incandescent bulbs—that don’t match the new standard, though households using any existing bulb that does not meet the standard will not be required to stop using them.

The decision was meant to conserve energy and “help consumers save on their energy bills,” as more energy-efficient bulbs—like LEDs—use at least 75% less energy and last up to 25 times longer than incandescent bulbs, according to the department.

An effort to phase out less efficient bulbs was initiated by former President George W. Bush, whose Energy Independence and Security Act in 2007 called for household light bulbs to have “about 25% greater efficiency,” though it did not outright ban incandescent bulbs, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.

Former President Barack Obama added two new regulations to the act in 2017, which would have effectively phased out incandescent bulbs and other specialty bulbs, like candle-shaped bulbs used in chandeliers, by January 2020, according to the EPA.

The Department of Energy later blocked the regulations during Trump’s presidency in 2019, after Trump—who said energy-efficient bulbs Americans were “being forced to use” made him “look orange”—advocated against them and other environmental regulations."

MSN

We use all LED now, but have definitely noticed they don’t last any longer, sometimes a lot shorter life span.

 

[Revoltingest]

Neither of us are legal scholars and I do not recall any manufacturers rushing to court to challenge this law.

Some things aren't worth the cost.
And SCOTUS can have a mindset that
runs counter to the Constitution, eg,
military conscription. Challenging
that would never see victory, the
13th Amendment notwithstanding.

And it ticks me off that I cannot remember the name of the company that I used to get incandescent bulbs from. I found one in my house , it is still working and I closed my store almost 20 years ago.

The authorities have read your post,
& are on their way to arrest you, &
confiscate your illegal bulb.
I have thousands of 60W incandescent
bulbs (for historical generator load banks).
I have a special dispensation for this use.

 

[sun rise]

All they know how to do is ban things.

Nearly 80 major clean energy factories announced in year since Biden’s IRA passed: ‘It seems like every week​

 

[Father Heathen]

Europe banned incandescent bulbs on 2009. Good to know America is trying to catch up

Roughly half of the U.S.is holding us back and weighing us down when it comes to making progress. It's shameful and embarrassing.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Roughly half of the U.S.is holding us back and weighing us down when it comes to making progress. It's shameful and embarrassing.

That may be, but I'm skeptical it's even really close to half.

More like, maybe a vocal 25-33% of people, and 50-70% of politicians, are holding people back.

 

[Father Heathen]

That may be, but I'm skeptical it's even really close to half.

More like, maybe a vocal 25-33% of people, and 50-70% of politicians, are holding people back.

Nonetheless, the malignant tumor is still too large and could very well spell the end for this country.

 

[sun rise]

Fluorescents suck though.
They're difficult to dispose of properly because of
the form of mercury used to coat the inside of the
bulb. They also have flickering problems.
And they're far less efficient than LEDs.
So the market itself is phasing out fluorescent lights.

I swapped them out when we redid our kitchen overhead lights. I'll do the same in the garage when they burn out.

 

[sun rise]

We use all LED now, but have definitely noticed they don’t last any longer, sometimes a lot shorter life span.

Really? In exactly what situation do they last a lot shorter than incandescent? Because what you state is not backed up by experience Lighting Comparison: LED vs Incandescent Lighting

 

[Revoltingest]

I swapped them out when we redid our kitchen overhead lights. I'll do the same in the garage when they burn out.

I still have some fluorescents where they're used very little.

 

[ChristineM]

We use all LED now, but have definitely noticed they don’t last any longer, sometimes a lot shorter life span.

They should be lasting up to 50 times longer. Do you have a problem with your electric supply, uneven, spiky supply can shorten led life, as can overheating

 

[Brickjectivity]

Incandescent bulbs are a fire hazard, so they must be banished. Also people have been using them to head dog houses, and that is just cheating.

 

[Revoltingest]

They should be lasting up to 50 times longer. Do you have a problem with your electric supply, uneven, spiky supply can shorten led life, as can overheating

I've not found life to be as great as claimed.
Still, it's pretty darned good.

 

[sun rise]

I've not found life to be as great as claimed.
Still, it's pretty darned good.

I've not found much that lives up the claims most recently Tesla mileage between charges.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I though this happened a long time ago.

I mean really, how many politicians does it take to change a light bulb?

Two. One to tell everyone everything is fine, and the other to screw the new lightbulb into the water faucet.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've not found much that lives up the claims most recently Tesla mileage between charges.

H&H trailers live up to their claims.
It's why I bought my 3rd one.