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I always say that there is a high likelihood of intelligent life somewhere. But the ability to travel through space appears to be very very limiting. Unless some sort of way to cheat and "go around" the distance is found then we as a species are trapped in this one Solar System.
Fair enough. Summary: the "credible sources" aren't.
I am referring to the official investigation of some of these reports, not to YouTube videos.It was swamp gas. Even Navy pilot can be fooled easily. Yes, that's it. Swamp gas.
Thank goodness for YouTube to clear that up for us. Silly pilots! Oops.
Me as well.
Except of course for those that are credible.
You believe these Navy pilots were duped by a common optical illusion? All of what the article said can be explained away by that? Call me unconvinced.
No, you can't use the "these are highly trained" claim. They are trained, but they are often using brand new technology too.Except of course for those that are credible.
"But then pilots began seeing the objects. In late 2014, Lieutenant Graves said he was back at base in Virginia Beach when he encountered a squadron mate just back from a mission “with a look of shock on his face.” He said he was stunned to hear the pilot’s words. “I almost hit one of those things,” the pilot told Lieutenant Graves.The pilot and his wingman were flying in tandem about 100 feet apart over the Atlantic east of Virginia Beach when something flew between them, right past the cockpit. It looked to the pilot, Lieutenant Graves said, like a sphere encasing a cube. The incident so spooked the squadron that an aviation flight safety report was filed, Lieutenant Graves said.The near miss, he and other pilots interviewed said, angered the squadron, and convinced them that the objects were not part of a classified drone program. Government officials would know fighter pilots were training in the area, they reasoned, and would not send drones to get in the way. “It turned from a potentially classified drone program to a safety issue,” Lieutenant Graves said. “It was going to be a matter of time before someone had a midair” collision.What was strange, the pilots said, was that the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew. “Speed doesn’t kill you,” Lieutenant Graves said. “Stopping does. Or acceleration.”Asked what they thought the objects were, the pilots refused to speculate.“We have helicopters that can hover,” Lieutenant Graves said. “We have aircraft that can fly at 30,000 feet and right at the surface.” But “combine all that in one vehicle of some type with no jet engine, no exhaust plume.”Lieutenant Accoin said only that “we’re here to do a job, with excellence, not make up myths.”In March 2015 the Roosevelt left the coast of Florida and headed to the Persian Gulf as part of the American-led mission fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. The same pilots who were interacting with the strange objects off the East Coast were soon doing bombing missions over Iraq and Syria.The incidents tapered off after they left the United States, the pilots said.‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects (Published 2019)
No one at the Pentagon is saying that the objects are extraterrestrial, but the Navy has issued new classified guidance for reporting unexplained aerial phenomena.www.nytimes.com
These are highly trained Navy pilots who could not only see them on their radar, lock on to them, witness them doing maneuvers that no aircraft we have can, and saw them with their own eyes over the course of many days. But it could all have just been swamp gas, or an optical illusion, and they just need to be trained better? It can't be real, so therefore they can't be credible. Something like that?
I mean, I get the fringe lunatics out there, but this??? It takes a special brand of "skepticism" to lump these guys into with some hayseed by his still in the Ozarks seeing objects in the sky.
Yup, they are trained to fight wars, with other aircraft, not to identify random objects at random altitudes and at random speeds.You believe these Navy pilots were duped by a common optical illusion? All of what the article said can be explained away by that? Call me unconvinced.
To quote the article directly this time:
"But then pilots began seeing the objects. In late 2014, Lieutenant Graves said he was back at base in Virginia Beach when he encountered a squadron mate just back from a mission “with a look of shock on his face.” He said he was stunned to hear the pilot’s words. “I almost hit one of those things,” the pilot told Lieutenant Graves.
The pilot and his wingman were flying in tandem about 100 feet apart over the Atlantic east of Virginia Beach when something flew between them, right past the cockpit. It looked to the pilot, Lieutenant Graves said, like a sphere encasing a cube. The incident so spooked the squadron that an aviation flight safety report was filed, Lieutenant Graves said.
The near miss, he and other pilots interviewed said, angered the squadron, and convinced them that the objects were not part of a classified drone program. Government officials would know fighter pilots were training in the area, they reasoned, and would not send drones to get in the way. “It turned from a potentially classified drone program to a safety issue,” Lieutenant Graves said. “It was going to be a matter of time before someone had a midair” collision.
What was strange, the pilots said, was that the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew. “Speed doesn’t kill you,” Lieutenant Graves said. “Stopping does. Or acceleration.”
Asked what they thought the objects were, the pilots refused to speculate.“We have helicopters that can hover,” Lieutenant Graves said. “We have aircraft that can fly at 30,000 feet and right at the surface.” But “combine all that in one vehicle of some type with no jet engine, no exhaust plume.” Lieutenant Accoin said only that “we’re here to do a job, with excellence, not make up myths.”In March 2015 the Roosevelt left the coast of Florida and headed to the Persian Gulf as part of the American-led mission fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. The same pilots who were interacting with the strange objects off the East Coast were soon doing bombing missions over Iraq and Syria.
The incidents tapered off after they left the United States, the pilots said.
‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects (Published 2019)
No one at the Pentagon is saying that the objects are extraterrestrial, but the Navy has issued new classified guidance for reporting unexplained aerial phenomena.
You think these pilots aren't trained to know the difference? You think their radar and their eyes saying the things, and the recordings, all can be explained away by this? I don't buy it.
True. But, in space travel, the numbers are awful.
www.nationalgeographic.com
Ok, sure. The world's best pilots are making a big deal about "random objects". I mean, did you read the article? Did you read what I quoted from it, in case you can't see it past the paywall? Seriously, your argument isn't rational.
Yeah yeah, that’s what the pilots say they think they saw. The object “zooming over the ocean waves” may have been the one that was found to be actually at 13,000ft and moving at 40 knots.
Sounds like denialism to me.Yeah yeah, that’s what the pilots say they think they saw. The object “zooming over the ocean waves” may have been the one that was found to be actually at 13,000ft and moving at 40 knots.
But gosh wow a Navy pilot saw it, so he must be right!
I’m sorry but I’m not impressed.
Care to elaborate?I suspect that statistics is not your strong suit.
And from all these sightings there were three videos that where released to the public and all of them had explanations that where everything else but aliens (and did not perform impossible manoeuvres, it just seemed that way). That was all the hard evidence that came out of that.Except of course for those that are credible.
"But then pilots began seeing the objects. In late 2014, Lieutenant Graves said he was back at base in Virginia Beach when he encountered a squadron mate just back from a mission “with a look of shock on his face.” He said he was stunned to hear the pilot’s words. “I almost hit one of those things,” the pilot told Lieutenant Graves.The pilot and his wingman were flying in tandem about 100 feet apart over the Atlantic east of Virginia Beach when something flew between them, right past the cockpit. It looked to the pilot, Lieutenant Graves said, like a sphere encasing a cube. The incident so spooked the squadron that an aviation flight safety report was filed, Lieutenant Graves said.The near miss, he and other pilots interviewed said, angered the squadron, and convinced them that the objects were not part of a classified drone program. Government officials would know fighter pilots were training in the area, they reasoned, and would not send drones to get in the way. “It turned from a potentially classified drone program to a safety issue,” Lieutenant Graves said. “It was going to be a matter of time before someone had a midair” collision.What was strange, the pilots said, was that the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew. “Speed doesn’t kill you,” Lieutenant Graves said. “Stopping does. Or acceleration.”Asked what they thought the objects were, the pilots refused to speculate.“We have helicopters that can hover,” Lieutenant Graves said. “We have aircraft that can fly at 30,000 feet and right at the surface.” But “combine all that in one vehicle of some type with no jet engine, no exhaust plume.”Lieutenant Accoin said only that “we’re here to do a job, with excellence, not make up myths.”In March 2015 the Roosevelt left the coast of Florida and headed to the Persian Gulf as part of the American-led mission fighting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. The same pilots who were interacting with the strange objects off the East Coast were soon doing bombing missions over Iraq and Syria.The incidents tapered off after they left the United States, the pilots said.‘Wow, What Is That?’ Navy Pilots Report Unexplained Flying Objects (Published 2019)
No one at the Pentagon is saying that the objects are extraterrestrial, but the Navy has issued new classified guidance for reporting unexplained aerial phenomena.These are highly trained Navy pilots who could not only see them on their radar, lock on to them, witness them doing maneuvers that no aircraft we have can, and saw them with their own eyes over the course of many days. But it could all have just been swamp gas, or an optical illusion, and they just need to be trained better? It can't be real, so therefore they can't be credible. Something like that?
I mean, I get the fringe lunatics out there, but this??? It takes a special brand of "skepticism" to lump these guys into with some hayseed by his still in the Ozarks seeing objects in the sky.
Just confirming the old adage "it's never aliens - until it is".I was so disappointed when that suggested alien megastructure turned out to be only space dust.
Mystery of 'Alien Megastructure' Star Has Been Cracked
Twinkle, twinkle, Tabby’s Star: Dips in brightness so bizarre. Could it be we’ve found ET? No, not yet! It’s dust we see.
I think I cried for a week.
Out there all day (multiple days on end) and there is no high quality footage of any of this?
I'm sorry, I'm just too rational to be that gullible. If these pilots had so many encounters and near to none physical evidence then that little blurry evidence they produced is evidence for things not having happened as reported.
