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Ukraine has become a dictatorship, it's official

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
What I said was that 88% is clearly not a legitimate election. That's the kind of number you get with a sham election where they want to pretend it's legitimate, so they don't claim 100%.

But that's also just part of the evidence. It's an obvious and easy example. There are plenty of other indications of Russia's elections being a sham, like Putin killing political opponents.
Thank you, I'm wondering about over 70 percent myself.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Wartime Elections in Ukraine Are Impossible

Add a y to Zelenskyy's name in your mind.
I'm not sure what your point is here.

1) I can't read the link there because it's paywalled.

2) Yes, it's possible to have elections, but it's also not crazy to not have them right now while your country is fighting for its life.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
If you give me a source that's not obviously bad like Glenn Greenwald and is "paywalled" (because I'm not giving him my email address), I'll read.

Even if I gave you a piece of evidence like some sultan giving billions of dollars to some leftist foundation, you would not believe it.
You will deny the evidence.
So I will not be sealioned. :)
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I'm not sure what your point is here.

1) I can't read the link there because it's paywalled.

2) Yes, it's possible to have elections, but it's also not crazy to not have them right now while your country is fighting for its life.
It's not paywalled, just x out and don't give your email address. That's all I did.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Even if I gave you a piece of evidence like some sultan giving billions of dollars to some leftist foundation, you would not believe it.
You will deny the evidence.
So I will not be sealioned. :)
Good thing you're not being sealioned. Man, you guys really love deflecting with wildly inaccurate buzzwords, huh?

I can't even read the source you gave me, as I pointed out. Even if you give a bad source like that, I still have to actually be able to see what it says, and I can't even do that. But sure, pretend it's because I won't accept anything you post. That's a lot easier than actually trying to provide legit information that people can read.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Exactly like when US invaded Serbia....
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Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
It's not paywalled, just x out and don't give your email address. That's all I did.
I can't. That's my point. There's no "x out" option. It shows the first paragraph and then has the banner for the different subscription options, and there's no way around it.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
The problem is another one.

You claim that your sources on Putin being a dictator are uncontradictable.
Except of course I never claimed that. But yes, it's a fact that he is. I could provide a mountain of support, although it shouldn't really be needed, since I'm not making a claim that's not already contested.
Whereas the sources I provide you with are all flawed and unreadable.
You provided one source. Not only was it a questionable source, but it's one I can't even read anyway. Again, even if you dismiss the questionable nature of the source, you at the very least have to provide one people can actually read. That's not even about bias. That's just an obvious part of how it works.
Because you are an American and you are God whereas I am an European and I am inferior to you.
And I am also a woman, so a priori inferior.
;)
Well, that certainly was ridiculous. Maybe just save this sort of nonsense and concentrate on rational replies.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
We don't really have a say in whether or not we send money anywhere. We are also not obsessed with Putin or Orban.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Except of course I never claimed that. But yes, it's a fact that he is. I could provide a mountain of support, although it shouldn't really be needed, since I'm not making a claim that's not already contested.
But your pieces of evidence are as reliable as mine.

You provided one source. Not only was it a questionable source, but it's one I can't even read anyway. Again, even if you dismiss the questionable nature of the source, you at the very least have to provide one people can actually read. That's not even about bias. That's just an obvious part of how it works.
Okay...just google Clinton Foundation and Saudi Arabia.

Well, that certainly was ridiculous. Maybe just save this sort of nonsense and concentrate on rational replies.
I am just tired of sealioning.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
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