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Unbridled Capitalism is self-destructive

Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
metis said:
Some people conflate "socialism" and "Marxism" as supposedly being synonymous-- they're not: Socialism - Wikipedia
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In high school we spend lots of time on studying the philosophy of the Nineteenth Century.
First Hegelism, then all the birth of the social doctrine, Proudhon, Owen, and then Marx and Bakunin.
We are expected to know the difference between Socialism and Communism, or the professor of history and philosophy fails us.
 
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Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Estro Felino said:
In high school we spend lots of time to study the philosophy of the Nineteenth Century.
First Hegelism, then all the birth of the social doctrine, Proudhon, Owen, and then Marx and Bakunin.
We are expected to know the difference between Socialism and Communism, or the professor of history and philosophy fails us.
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What's said of computers applies to teaching....
"Garbage in, garbage out"
Even socialism's fans can't agree on what it is.
 
mikkel_the_dane

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Revoltingest said:
What's said of computers applies to teaching....
"Garbage in, garbage out"
Even socialism's fans can't agree on what it is.
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Yeah, but you can find the same with capitalism and libertarian. There are in effect a lot of words who have no objective referent.
BTW what is a social service?
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

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Estro Felino said:
With all due respect, may I know what kind of history American high schoolers re supposed to study? :)
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When I was in 7th grade, I was living in upstate NY, and it was mandated that all 7th graders learn NY State history. In 8th grade, it was US history, and in 9th grade, it was world history. Then we moved to Arizona where history seemed more of an elective, although you could choose different areas of study, such as the Civil War or the American Revolution, World War 2, etc.

We had a guest speaker in one of our classes, a US Army general who served under MacArthur and was involved in the liberation of the Philippines. He gave an interesting talk. A few weeks later he came back to show us a video from the American Conservative Union, advocating Peace Through Strength. He was giving us dire warnings about the Sandinistas in Nicaragua and how they were planning to take over the rest of Central America, then Mexico, then the United States. A few years later, I saw the exact same scenario played out in the movie Red Dawn.

This is why I often take it with a grain of salt whenever I hear someone talk about some supposed "threat" from some country where their leaders might be planning to take over the world. More than 40 years later, and Nicaragua still hasn't invaded the United States.
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Stevicus said:
When I was in 7th grade, I was living in upstate NY, and it was mandated that all 7th graders learn NY State history. In 8th grade, it was US history, and in 9th grade, it was world history. Then we moved to Arizona where history seemed more of an elective, although you could choose different areas of study, such as the Civil War or the American Revolution, World War 2, etc.

We had a guest speaker in one of our classes, a US Army general who served under MacArthur and was involved in the liberation of the Philippines. He gave an interesting talk. A few weeks later he came back to show us a video from the American Conservative Union, advocating Peace Through Strength. He was giving us dire warnings about the Sandinistas in Nicaragua and how they were planning to take over the rest of Central America, then Mexico, then the United States. A few years later, I saw the exact same scenario played out in the movie Red Dawn.

This is why I often take it with a grain of salt whenever I hear someone talk about some supposed "threat" from some country where their leaders might be planning to take over the world. More than 40 years later, and Nicaragua still hasn't invaded the United States.
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Interesting. Of course we have a Eurocentric history curriculum, since we study the Ancient and the Medieval Ages in 9th-10th grades; then the Modern Age from the 11th to the 12th; Actually the 12th is all about the Nineteenth Century, and the 13th about the 20th.
 
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Stevicus

Stevicus

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Revoltingest said:
Does anything good ever start out thus?
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Socialism...

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Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
Yerda said:
This is true and I don't believe we should disregard the things that have happened.


Ok. It doesn't strike me as morally weak or insane to desire better for everyone.
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Perhaps you forget that the road to hell is
paved with good intentions
 
Audie

Audie

Veteran Member
metis said:
Is that where the expression "Hotter than Hell!" comes from?
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No. For one, you need more than just good intentions yo get here.
But
Lucky for me I am very heat- adapted.

Five yrs in NYC, I thought I'd never thaw out.
 
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