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Unbridled Capitalism is self-destructive

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Still using a definition of socialism that is capitalistic, eh.
Do you think capitalism and socialism cannot coexist?

You sound like you believe in the dogma that Capitalism, that is the USA is good, while Communism (Cuba, Venezuela) is bad.
And that there are only these two incompatible opposites.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Do you think capitalism and socialism cannot coexist?
My answer wouldn't make sense to you
because I use dictionary definitions at
odds with your defintions.
You sound like you believe in the dogma that Capitalism, that is the USA is good, while Communism (Cuba, Venezuela) is bad.
And that there are only these two incompatible opposites.
It sounds like you're making things up.
The honest thing to do would be to
quote & respond to my posts.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
My answer wouldn't make sense to you
because I use dictionary definitions at
odds with your definitions.

I have always provided you with clear visual examples.

For example. Let's pretend the bananas are a finite, limited resource. But the fittest monkeys will take three bananas and the weakest ones will take none, in the end.




That's why laissez-faire, liberism, libertarianism are all doomed to failure. Because there will always be social injustice.
Since humans have evolved, darwinistically speaking from that stage (or at least, some have), they will need to create a very authoritative State that distributes the resources equally. :)
In the nightmarish world anarcho-capitalists want to create, there will always be injustice.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Even if you are an atheist, you were raised in a Protestant environment, and it inevitably molded your way of thinking.,
Unconsciously. ;)
Wrong again.
I was surrounded by Catholics, Protestants, & Jews.

I notice that you've many beliefs that you adopt
without verification. This suggests that you
should re-examine fundamental ones, lest your
entire worldview be a house of cards.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Wrong again.
I was surrounded by Catholics, Protestants, & Jews.

I notice that you've many beliefs that you adopt
without verification. This suggests that you
should re-examine fundamental ones, lest your
entire worldview be a house of cards.
I am speaking of the society of the Midwest. It's a Protestant environment.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I have always provided you with clear visual examples.

For example. Let's pretend the bananas are a finite, limited resource. But the fittest monkeys will take three bananas and the weakest ones will take none, in the end.




That's why laissez-faire, liberism, libertarianism are all doomed to failure. Because there will always be social injustice.
Since humans have evolved, darwinistically speaking from that stage (or at least, some have), they will need to create a very authoritative State that distributes the resources equally. :)
In the nightmarish world anarcho-capitalists want to create, there will always be injustice.

Even if resources aren't distributed equally, as long as the lower classes get an adequate and sufficient portion, then that should at least be good enough to maintain a reasonable degree of political stability and harmony within society.

Regardless of whatever one chooses to call it or what labels and definitions they use, the bottom line is that the role of the State should be to maintain its own structure by ensuring political, class, and economic stability. The art of politics requires a certain degree of flexibility, adaptability, and compromise. That's what seems to be missing in today's political climate, and the structure of the system starts to break down because of this.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I am speaking of the society of the Midwest. It's a Protestant environment.

Originally, it was dominated by the spiritual beliefs of the various tribes who lived there. Then, people like my ancestors rolled in, built farms, villages, churches. My father and his side of the family were all Protestants (Dutch Reformed), although he converted to Catholicism when he married my mother, who was Catholic. Her father was born in Louisiana, which was French Catholic. My grandmother converted to Catholicism when she married my grandfather, as she was a Southern Baptist from Missouri. So, even if I was nominally Catholic, my environment was more secularized and mixed, and I have observed this to be the case throughout America.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Originally, it was dominated by the spiritual beliefs of the various tribes who lived there. Then, people like my ancestors rolled in, built farms, villages, churches. My father and his side of the family were all Protestants (Dutch Reformed), although he converted to Catholicism when he married my mother, who was Catholic. Her father was born in Louisiana, which was French Catholic. My grandmother converted to Catholicism when she married my grandfather, as she was a Southern Baptist from Missouri. So, even if I was nominally Catholic, my environment was more secularized and mixed, and I have observed this to be the case throughout America.
I was thinking of Weber, actually: The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism - Wikipedia
By the way, it's a fact that in the Midwest, the people of German (and Protestant) descent, are the majority in most counties.
 
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