Understanding Muhammad A Psychobiography of Allah's Prophet by Ali Sina

[zenzero]

Friends,

The following ebook is an interesting read for all those who wishes to understand Islam from another perspective.

Use the following link:
2shared - download Understanding Muhammad A Psychobiography of Allah's Prophet by Ali Sina.pdf

Comments:

Love & rgds

 

[Moonstone]

Thank you for sharing. :rainbow1:

 

[maro]

.....[/B]for all those who wishes to understand Islam from another perspective.

I guess you mean from a liar's perspective

 

[Breathe]

Thank you for sharing zenzero.

 

[xkatz]

I guess you mean from a liar's perspective

If your talking the author maybe, depending on your point of veiw...

But zenzero is CERTAINLY not a liar, he is one of the kindest and most polite people on RF.

 

[zenzero]

Friend xkatz,

Our friend Maro is referring to Ali Sina who has written the book. For Maro the writer is a liar.
Well friend's Maro's thoughts can only be respected after she reads the book and points out where the *LIES* lie.
Passing loose comments on anyone is harming your very own *SELF which one is attempting to understand through various ways / path or religions.

Friend Maro, please go ahead with your arguments to back your statement.
Personally am neither for or against the writer but like an healthy discussion to enable our own minds to open up to the extent that the mind reaches the no-mind the ground where all thoughts still.

Love & rgds

 

[maro]

Friend xkatz,

Our friend Maro is referring to Ali Sina who has written the book. For Maro the writer is a liar.
Well friend's Maro's thoughts can only be respected after she reads the book and points out where the *LIES* lie.
Passing loose comments on anyone is harming your very own *SELF which one is attempting to understand through various ways / path or religions.

Friend Maro, please go ahead with your arguments to back your statement.

Friend zenzero

I had already downloaded the book and started reading in it before i made my comment about the author....unfortunatly he is not only a liar.....but too foolish to make his lies seem objective....too foolish to hide the bias and hatred in him

let's read the first paragraph of the book

since september 11 , 2001 ,there have been over 120 thousand terrorist attacks resulting in the deaths and injuries of hundreds of thousands of civilians ,throughout the world . The perpetrators of these attacks were not monsters ; they were muslims ,people who believed and acted in accordance with their faith. There are millions who think like them and are ready to do the same

so ,how did Mr. ali Sina know what lies in the hearts of milllions of muslims ? Did he split open their hearts ? or has it been revealed to him ?

Personally am neither for or against the writer

Personally , i think it takes an honest person with average intelligence and less than average knowlege about islam less than 2 seconds to make his judgment about the book and his author....but what can i say....those criteria seem to be lacking these days

 

[zenzero]

Friend Maro,

so ,how did Mr. ali Sina know what lies in the hearts of milllions of muslims ? Did he split open their hearts ? or has it been revealed to him ?

This does not prove that he is wrong because he is stating what is known through medias to everyone globally.
Being a muslim too one cannot state what lies in the hearts of other muslims am sure is also true.

Please carry on with your interpretations.
Love & rgds

 

[Ben Dhyan]

How about a book on Understanding Jesus through reading A Psychobiography of G-d's Messiah, or of understanding Gautama Siddartha etc., etc..

Who on earth is capable of such divine insight as to render a true psychobiograhy of even just another mere mortal, not alone a Prophet, Avatara, etc.?

No seriously zenzero, from the title alone it is clear that the author and publisher intended to insult Islam. And IMHO, it is an extension and continuation of the western media's pushing of Islamic phobia, and has an agenda to provoke hatred,.. another example of the well known modus operandi of Imperial rule, divide and rule.

The Great Game for the control and manipulation of the Earth's resources including its peoples, cultures, and religions continues, but God is not mocked,, whatsoever men sew, they will ultimately reap.

 

[zenzero]

Friend ben,

The question is not about right or wrong but about *consciousness* of each individual.
Once an individual is aware he himself carves his own path/religion and does not need the crutches provided by organised one which are mainly a set of meaningless rituals,rules and regulations, dos & don'ts besides every time we find someone talking on behalf of all the followers of the same path, which is not possible as then the individual should be declared a messiah!

Love & rgds

 

[Abu Rashid]

This does not prove that he is wrong because he is stating what is known through medias to everyone globally.

It proves he's a liar, because resistance movements resisting occupations of their countries could hardly be counted as "terrorist acts". In fact if one examines most of these so called terrorist attacks, one will find they are either:

a) Actually attacks on American and other occupation soldiers.
b) Attacks against the collaborationist governments aiding the occupations.
c) Not even documented in any reputable news source, or actually generic crimes being labeled as terrorism because the perpetrator was Muslim.

The discerning reader would have to ask himself why would it be that all of a sudden since 9/11 all these acts of violence suddenly occurred? Was it since 9/11 or was it actually since the revenge-invasions of the U.S into Afghanistan and Iraq?

Prior to 9/11, very few "terrorist attacks" were perpetrated by Muslims, in fact probably most were by Christians and Socialists or other liberation movements fighting occupations of their homes. If the "war on terror" was supposed to have prevented terrorism, it's done a pretty lousy job, since terrorist attacks have supposedly gone through the roof since the war began.

 

[xkatz]

I would like to say sorry about my statement above.

To add on however, I don't know that much about Ali Sina or his views of Muhammad.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Friend ben,

The question is not about right or wrong but about *consciousness* of each individual.
Once an individual is aware he himself carves his own path/religion and does not need the crutches provided by organised one which are mainly a set of meaningless rituals,rules and regulations, dos & don'ts besides every time we find someone talking on behalf of all the followers of the same path, which is not possible as then the individual should be declared a messiah!

Love & rgds

Friend zenzero,

Psychobiography
noun
A biography that analyzes the psychological makeup, character, or motivations of its subject

Muhammad was the messenger and the Quran was the message.

The message of Islam is not about the psychological makeup, character, or motivations of Muhammad and is certainly not "about *consciousness* of each individual." Since it self evident that the author is functioning from the conceptual thinking mind, he therefore 'sees' reality through limited and distorted mortal anthropomorphic mind filters. However the message of the Quran is not meant to be interpreted on a mundane level but is inspirational to the higher nature of mortal man and hence can't be understood by the conceited ego of man.

Allah guides whom He pleases and leads astray whom He wills. IOW, it is not through mortal man's own efforts that he will be guided to enlightenment, but through surrender and ultimate submission to the TRUTH, Allah.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I would like to say sorry about my statement above.

To add on however, I don't know that much about Ali Sina or his views of Muhammad.

Hi xkatz,

FYI he has his own web site for his anti Islamic propaganda, and can be found at this link. Ali Sina's Challenge to All Muslims. | Islam | FaithFreedom

And here are his views of Muhammad.

I (Ali Sina) accuse Muhammad of being:

a narcissist
a misogynist
a rapist
a pedophile
a lecher
a torturer
a mass murderer
a cult leader
an assassin
a terrorist
a mad man
a looter

Clearly he is not a man of Truth.

 

[zenzero]

Friend ben,

Am not for or against Mohammud or Ali Sinai, both are human one realised the self and the other has not.
The question is how many followers of islam understand what TRUTH is all about?
Like to discuss personal understandings of all issues as individuals and not as members of any organised religions which mostly are sets of mind functions.
Love & rgds

Love & rgds

 

[Abu Rashid]

zenzero,

How about you expound for us here what exactly you find truthful and interesting about his writings?

Perhaps you can summarise for us what you found so inspirational about it?

 

[zenzero]

Friend Abu,
Each individual has a perspective when the mind [thoughts] create that illusion and personally have no perspective but to bring about awareness of this mind play in every sphere, every activity, every move to remind the self and others around that life is about reality and not about personalities which are mind created illusions.

Love & rgds

 

[Sahar]

Friend Abu,
Each individual has a perspective when the mind [thoughts] create that illusion and personally have no perspective but to bring about awareness of this mind play in every sphere, every activity, every move to remind the self and others around that life is about reality and not about personalities which are mind created illusions.

Love & rgds

Is this your reply to Abu Rahsid questions?

How about you expound for us here what exactly you find truthful and interesting about his writings?

Perhaps you can summarise for us what you found so inspirational about it?

 

[no-body]

Hi xkatz,

FYI he has his own web site for his anti Islamic propaganda, and can be found at this link. Ali Sina's Challenge to All Muslims. | Islam | FaithFreedom

And here are his views of Muhammad...

Clearly he is not a man of Truth.

To be fair he does seem to want honest debate. I can see how all of this would be inflammatory to a devote Muslim, but it is very interesting and another point of view.

 

[England my lionheart]

Hi xkatz,

FYI he has his own web site for his anti Islamic propaganda, and can be found at this link. Ali Sina's Challenge to All Muslims. | Islam | FaithFreedom

And here are his views of Muhammad.

I (Ali Sina) accuse Muhammad of being:

a narcissist
a misogynist
a rapist
a pedophile
a lecher
a torturer
a mass murderer
a cult leader
an assassin
a terrorist
a mad man
a looter

Clearly he is not a man of Truth.

What is the truth of Islam? do you know? i doubt that your truth is the same as everyone who calls themself a Muslim.
Zen has highlighted what we are,individuals.