Unintelligent Design

[Robert.Evans]

How petty of you. Ridicule Buddhism all you like, I really don't care. Though I doubt you understand it sufficiently well to do an effective job.

I really don't get it. You come on a forum and proselytize interminably about theism, then whinge when people challenge your cliched theology and vague claims about "spiritual discernment". Oh well.

You don't get me? Boy that is rich. You ridicule my faith and the existence that is the reason you exist, AND, you do it ALL the time. I mention one thing about a fat man under a tree, and you are up in arms. See what it is like now Norman?

Perhaps he eats too much ice cream, eh

Oh and by the way, I don't rightly care if someone coverts or not. There argument is with God not me. But I can't stand by and see people misrepresent the truth into the form of a lie.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

You don't get me? Boy that is rich. You ridicule my faith and the existence that is the reason you exist, AND, you do it ALL the time. I mention one thing about a fat man under a tree, and you are up in arms. See what it is like now Norman?

I'm not "up in arms" at all, just bored. I wish you would change the record.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

But I can't stand by and see people misrepresent the truth into the form of a lie.

People are going to disagree with you, that's life.

 

[Robert.Evans]

I'm not "up in arms" at all, just bored. I wish you would change the record.

Nice get out clause. Go ask the fat man what he thinks

 

[Robert.Evans]

People are going to disagree with you, that's life.

that's life, that's life, that's what all the people say...

 

[The Sparrow]

Hmmm.... well I don't see anything worth answering there. Your comments are pretty standard and you missed most of my points I feel.

Concession duly noted.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Go ask the fat man what he thinks

At least my fat man actually existed. Your fat man is like Santa Claus, though without the presents.

 

[The Sparrow]

At least my fat man actually existed. Your fat man is like Santa Claus, though without the presents.

Yup, and besides, 'belief' in his existence isn't even necessary. Buddhism is a practice, not a worship of a deity.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Yup, and besides, 'belief' in his existence isn't even necessary. Buddhism is a practice, not a worship of a deity.

Exactly! That's why Buddhism is so cool!

 

[Pudding]

The question had nothing to do with claiming anything. I am asking if intelligence is not used in creation, then it must be luck. Yes or no.

You claims that "intelligence is involved in creation" and it can't be luck.
You claims that "if intelligence is not used in creation, then it must be luck" .
You bear the burden to prove your claims are true, otherwise it's all unsubstantiated.

I claims that i don't know the true answer:
Intelligence must be involved in creation? It can't be the result of luck? Or any other assumptions?
For me, all is possible, but not yet to substantiated or proven correct, evidence pending.

 

[Pudding]

Do you have any evidence for what you believe in? Or don't you believe in anything? Does the word "fence" come to mind?

I ask that poster to provide evidence for what he claims he believes, what is your point to asking me your questions? What is the relevancy of your questions to my previous post?

 

[Robert.Evans]

You claims that "intelligence is involved in creation" and it can't be luck.
You claims that "if intelligence is not used in creation, then it must be luck" .
You bear the burden to prove your claims are true, otherwise it's all unsubstantiated.

I claims that i don't know the true answer:
Intelligence must be involved in creation? It can't be the result of luck? Or any other assumptions?
For me, all is possible, but not yet to substantiated or proven correct, evidence pending.

That is fine. If you don't know, okay. Just remember though, don't say someone else is wrong, such as saying there is no God, because that smacks of someone who knows.

 

[Pudding]

That is fine. If you don't know, okay. Just remember though, don't say someone else is wrong, such as saying there is no God, because that smacks of someone who knows.

What is your point or relevancy to the previous post?
Are you going to prove your previous claims is true?

 

[Robert.Evans]

What is your point or relevancy to the previous post?
Are you going to prove your previous claims is true?

You will have to be clearer on what you're asking I'm afraid.
If you are asking for God to wave from behind a cloud, it ain't gonna happen.

 

[Pudding]

You will have to be clearer on what you're asking I'm afraid.
If you are asking for God to wave from behind a cloud, it ain't gonna happen.

What things you're not clear of?

You claims that "intelligence is involved in creation" and it can't be luck.
You claims that "if intelligence is not used in creation, then it must be luck" .
You bear the burden to prove your claims are true, otherwise it's all unsubstantiated.

Are you going to prove your previous claims is true?

 

[Robert.Evans]

What things you're not clear of?

You claims that "intelligence is involved in creation" and it can't be luck.
You claims that "if intelligence is not used in creation, then it must be luck" .
You bear the burden to prove your claims are true, otherwise it's all unsubstantiated.

Are you going to prove your previous claims is true?

We have to prove something like that to you which is obviously childsplay? Do you think that luck can create complex things? And if not, there must be, somewhere, intelligence involved.

 

[Pudding]

We have to prove something like that to you which is obviously childsplay?

Obviously childsplay? What is obviously childsplay?
It's obviously childsplay to ask you to substantiate your unsubstantiated claims?
It's odd if you do think so, do you intent to elaborate why it is so?

Do you think that luck can create complex things? And if not, there must be, somewhere, intelligence involved.

I've already say/claims that i don't know the true answer, neither did i claims those of your claims is true, you otoh makes those claims, are you going to substantiate your claims?

 

[Robert.Evans]

Obviously childsplay? What is obviously childsplay?
It's obviously childsplay to ask you to substantiate your unsubstantiated claims?
It's odd if you do think so, do you intent to elaborate why it is so?


I've already say/claims that i don't know the true answer, neither did i claims those of your claims is true, you otoh makes those claims, are you going to substantiate your claims?

As you said, you don't know.

 

[Pudding]

As you said, you don't know.

Obviously childsplay? What is obviously childsplay?
It's obviously childsplay to ask you to substantiate your unsubstantiated claims?
It's odd if you do think so, do you intent to elaborate why it is so?

I've already say/claims that i don't know the true answer, neither did i claims those of your claims is true, you otoh makes those claims, are you going to substantiate your claims?

 

[Demonslayer]

At least my fat man actually existed. Your fat man is like Santa Claus, though without the presents.

When you get to Heaven you get a cloud, a harp and a golden halo. What more do you want you greedy SOB???