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Universal Reconciliation religion.
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
So do I, and yet we aren't going to always agree with each other.
Yes, and He is a very good judge of that. Have you ever stopped to consider that "spreading lies" is not necessarily the same thing as "expressing a difference of opinion"? You might very well think that I'm spreading lies, when all I'm really doing is interpreting scripture differently than you.
Seriously, I'm trying to help you here.
By the way, did you just overlook the question I asked you in this post? I'd be curious as to what your thoughts are.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Even if Hitler repented?
How would Hitler's repentance assist 5,000,000 souls plus all the family members who lived?
Does your god make such calculations?
I believe so, yes
The righteous cry, and Yahweh hears, and delivers them out of all their troubles. Psalm 34:17
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
So are there some sins (besides blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which the Bible describes as the one sin which cannot be forgiven) that you personally believe cannot be forgiven? What would some of these be?
Well, I suppose I might blaspheme The True God if someone tore me away from my husband and children and threw me half dead into a mass grave. Might you not?
Godwins law states "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches"
So the comparison doesn't need to be a comparison to Hitler.
Oh dear. I suppose I should use words that deserve a (kind) response. It is my understanding that to cause another to blaspheme is even worse than blaspheming.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Uh... That was an interesting comment, but it didn't answer my question. You sound like you're asking me if I condone Hitler for what he did to the Jews. The answer is "no." Now, how about you trying actually giving me a serious answer to my question. You might want to approach it from this standpoint... Can a person be forgiven for murder? Can a person be forgiven for multiple murders? Can a person be forgiven for mass murder?
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See above please. Thank you.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
We're not talking about blaspheming in general. We're talking about blasphemy against the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit, which is pretty specific. That's the only sin the Bible describes as "unforgivable." But you appear to be interpreting it differently, so I'm just trying to figure out what you mean. (It would be a lot easier for both of us, I think, if you don't try to be clever in your response.)
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I already read your post. Why would you blaspheme against God if some human being did something to you? I don't get it.
Do you actually believe what the Nazis did did not cause
anyone
to "curse God to HIS very face?" And if someone DID curse God for what others do against innocent people are the ones causing it not guilty too?But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Matthew 18:6
You might get red in the face arguing none "believed in Christ" so it doesn't apply. Jews believe in God. Do you think it is not good enough?
Huh? Really? If you suspected the same thing was happening to your children you might not lose faith in God?
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Apparently you and I have a difference of opinion as to what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit means. With that in mind, and seeing as we're getting nowhere in our discussion, I'll just drop the subject.
Why not tell us what it means?
the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God. I think some people cause other people to lose respect for God. Do you believe if Satan had attacked Job's children instead of Job the outcome would be the same? I don't.
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
As I just got through saying, "Apparently you and I have a difference of opinion as to what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit means." But to answer your question, something that a human being did would not make me lose my faith in God, since I believe that God gives human beings free will and many of them abuse it. However, even if I were to lose faith in God, I don't believe I would be guilty of "blaspheming against the Holy Spirit."
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