US and UK carry out airstrikes against Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen

[Laniakea]

Afghanistan is testimony against the war on terror not a case for it.

An unsustainable occupation that left even more arms in the hands of the terrorists and killed many senselessly is most definitely something that no one should not have supported. It's true that for a period civil rights were improved for women, but these short-lived benefits came at immense human price and Afghan terrorists were left with state of the art weapons when the west had to withdraw.

It did not go well.

It went well enough until Joe Biden decided to make a hasty withdrawl, and left our equipment behind for the enemy. Before that, women were being empowered with new freedoms they never had. Before even that, Osama bin Laden was finally taken down. He was the reason we were there in the first place--because the Taliban was protecting him.

 

[Laniakea]

I don't think that the prices of oil and consumer goods are justifiable grounds for military intervention.

Do you understand how terrorist groups get bigger and stronger and more influential? They extort money from people and companies by taking hostages for ransom, stealing ships to use for further attacks, stealing oil to sell on the black market to buy weapons. If they are allowed to continue doing such things, then they get large and strong enough that they become a much bigger problem in the future that will require far more military intervention.

 

[libre]

Trump might agree. I do not.

I disagree.
What do you think America ought to do?

 

[Revoltingest]

Considering that the source is a terrorist organization, I think "dislike" is mild.

And Israel is a terrorist state.
Meh...
Nothing to add.

 

[Bthoth]

And Israel is a terrorist state.
Meh...
Nothing to add.

And like the guy above said, allowing terrorist to get stronger makes it hard to stop them.
Now that state has nukes and a samson option if anyone fights them with the same.

 

[Kenny]

Spoken like a true Christian, ie, the way to end
war is to increase the war....obliterate the enemy.
Yeah...that's been working real well so far.

The other side of the coin is just to give them money and be nice hoping they will be nice too...

well….

to quote a famous person

Yeah...that's been working real well so far.

So what is your method?

 

[libre]

It went well enough until Joe Biden decided to make a hasty withdrawl

America had been planning their withdrawal for the 10 years since they killed Bin Laden.
Trying to pin the failures on the final months is a refusal to confront facts.

 

[Revoltingest]

If your home is ever invaded by armed thugs, don't call the police.

Cops don't defend people.
It's our responsibility to defend ourselves.
2 of us here are armed.
I use a Glock #22 loaded with Glaser Blue fragmenting bullets.

If you're foolish enuf to depend on cops for your
security, this is your right. BTW, I have some ocean
front property on the Moon to sell you.

 

[Laniakea]

And Israel is a terrorist state.
Meh...
Nothing to add.

Of course you have nothing to add. You can't back up your claim about Israel. Just an empty claim.
It's ok. It's all I expected anyway.

 

[Laniakea]

America had been planning their withdrawal for the 10 years since they killed Bin Laden.
Trying to pin the failures on the final months is a refusal to confront facts.

it wasn't until the final months that 13 service members were killed, and then our equipment ended up in the hands of the Taliban, and then the Taliban stripped women of their rights very soon afterward.

 

[Laniakea]

Cops don't defend people.
It's our responsibility to defend ourselves.
2 of us here are armed.
I use a Glock #22 loaded with Glaser Blue fragmenting bullets.

If you're foolish enuf to depend on cops for your
security, this is your right. BTW, I have some ocean
front property on the Moon to sell you.

But what if the home invaders don't have a Glock 22 with Glazer bullets? That would be so unfair!

 

[Revoltingest]

And like the guy above said, allowing terrorist to get stronger makes it hard to stop them.
Now that state has nukes and a samson option if anyone fights them with the same.

The bigger problem is that USA would
unleash nukes if Israel wants. If it takes
WW3 to kill Hamas, they'd go that far.

 

[Revoltingest]

The other side of the coin is just to give them money and be nice hoping they will be nice too...

You think money is all that's needed?
Financial well being for Palestinians
is only part of the picture. People
like justice too.

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course you have nothing to add.

You're unworthy of further effort.

 

[Revoltingest]

But what if the home invaders don't have a Glock 22 with Glazer bullets? That would be so unfair!

Unfair to my advantage is good.

 

[sun rise]

Biden has given Iran $6 billion

That made it sound like a gift of our money. It was releasing some frozen Iran funds based on some action they took. 20-20 hindsight said that was a mistake.

Some of the governments in that region which we support are also less than savory, so that can also muddle any messages we try to send.

Yes, that's a real problem.

I don't think that the prices of oil and consumer goods are justifiable grounds for military intervention.

What about piracy? They tried to seize ships as well. Are going to tell pirates they can do whatever they want? Where do you draw the line?

 

[Bthoth]

The bigger problem is that USA would
unleash nukes if Israel wants.

Not even close.

If it takes
WW3 to kill Hamas, they'd go that far.

"WE" could unleash the crips of LA to take out hamas, no need of nukes. Keep in mind HAMAS are israel's own creation, they are the people, that israel uprooted and put into the concentration camp (gaza). Technically HAMAS are israel's own people within israel's controlled environment.

The illegal activities of israels occupation are why HAMAS exists!

 

[sun rise]

What do you think America ought to do?

Just like Hamas, their leaders don't care what happens to the people nor to their followers as long as they keep their villas and good life.

If we could send in a few special forces and grab the leaders, that would be great. Otherwise personally what I suggested, a demonstration of what we could do with a low level supersonic pass.

 

[sun rise]

HAMAS are israel's own creation,

Bull****.

 

[Bthoth]

Bull****.

Are you new to the topic of israel's illegal occupation of palestine? How do you think concentration camp gaza was created? Israel took lands from palestinians and then moved the people into gaza, by force.

If you have no idea about what HAMAS is, then do some reading before posting.

""Hamas, an acronym of its official name, the Islamic Resistance Movement, is a Palestinian Sunni Islamist political and military organization governing the Gaza Strip of the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories.""""

"""

Other sources say that Hamas was founded by Yassin and six other Palestinians as an offshoot of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood after Palestinians were killed in a traffic accident involving an Israeli driver during the events that followed–First Intifada, a Palestinian uprising against Israel's occupation of the West Bank ..."""""


ps... having facts, does not mean supporting HAMAS.