US Govt: Zionists must end illegal occupation for peace

[Jayhawker Soule]

@Jayhawker Soule leftist zionists are more dangerous than netanyahu and the most extremist party in the apartheid regime. Because the leftists claim to be pro-palestine and pro-peace with their tongue, while what they hide is their true motives. They are more cruel , more hateful to palestinians than netanyahu ever could be.
Because they stabb people in the back. They dont mean what they say.

<yawn>

if you say so​

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[CMike]

Obama top aide says Israeli occupation 'must end' - Al Jazeera English


The whole problem and lack of peace is because zionists are still occupying Palestine. That must end if Zionists wants to live in peace.
I prefer borderlines before 1948 (before birth of Zionist state )

There is no palestine and nor was there ever an indepndent muslim state of palestine.

The Jordanian and Egyptian settlers and occupiers can go back to their home countries.

 

[CMike]

U.S. boycotts U.N. discussion on alleged Israeli violations in disputed territories

Non participation isn't really support.

What a bunch of wusses.

 

[CMike]

Here in the real world, we have to take into account the fact that the Israelis who live there now are not responsible for the crimes of their forefathers. Palestine deserves its own state. With the 48 Borders. But no further.

Of course, a single Secular, Israeli-Palestinian state would be best, but it seems like the governments and supporters of both sides are too stupid & childish to live together like adults.

Honestly, none of you deserve a state. You should be a UN Mandate until you learn not to smear your own **** on the walls.

The "Palestinian State" is called Jordan.

They don't get another one within Israel.

 

[CMike]

That's funny because its probably what some Jews said when the Arabs rejected the proposal of the Peel Commission.




You know the 67 Armistice Line is already hinting that it might be a good idea to invade but with the 48 Borders one is just asking Israel to be invaded.

So is the 1967 border. It's no longer defensible, especially from governments that have sworn to kill all the Jews.

 

[JacobEzra.]

Talk of a "genocidal mentality in Israel' is an outrageous antisemitic distortion, particularly from someone who has demonstrated little or no concern about the genocidal mentality of Iran, Hezbolah, Hamas, and the Muslim Brotherhood.

To be fair, growing nationalism and militarism is middle east as whole.

You too saw how Netanyahu wonby invoking fear of voting arabs.

How would you feel if an American candidate did that?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

To be fair, growing nationalism and militarism is middle east as whole.

You too saw how Netanyahu wonby invoking fear of voting arabs.

To be fair, you don't seem to know what you're talking about - or, rather, you're talking just to hear yourself talk.

Words should matter to Jews. There is a world of difference between, on the one hand, condemning Netanyahu and his despicable chauvinism he both reflects and injects, and, on the other, berating "the genocidal mentality in Israel.' If that difference is unclear to you, you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

How would you feel if an American candidate did that?

Don't presume to lecture me. I am a long-standing supporter of Meretz, IRAC, and the NIF and have little need for your condescending drivel.

 

[JacobEzra.]

little need for your condescending drivel.

Right, I'm the condescending one....

 

[JacobEzra.]

If you don't think nationalism and militarism doesn't lead into a genocidal mentality, then you're mistaken.

 

[Tumah]

Non participation isn't really support.

What a bunch of wusses.

Well I was really just posting it to contrast the OP.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Assume, for the sake of argument, that Abbas & Netanyahu negotiate in good faith and the two state solution is achieved. The PLO is now in control of the West Bank, much as it was initially in control of Gaza.

• • How do you think Daesh will respond? Hamas? Iran?
  • How long do you think Abbas could remain in power?
  • What will replace him?
  • Will antisemitic vitriol increase or decrease?
  • Will terrorist attacks on Israel increase or decrease?
  • Will the Middle East be more or less stable?

The Middle East is endlessly complicated. Blaming Israel for the lack of peace is remarkably stupid.

Lets be frank.
Dragging your feet with questions is only an excuse to prevent peace.
The day Arafat was killed is the day they killed Mr Peace.
The stumbling block to Mr Peace was "Jerusalem".
Is the Zionist State prepared to give up "Jerusalem"?
Or
Are they preparing "Jerusalem" as their genocidal graveyard?

 

[faroukfarouk]

As we've seen with many attacks on Jews in other countries, the idea that we should leave Israel and that somehow this will grant us peace is ludicrous.

Why would any one ask you to move?
You could live in a one State called Palestine and there is no problem with that but you have to address the injustice of the past or a 2 state solution and also address the injustice of the past especially about the theft of land.

Instead I gotta better idea-- tell the Arabs in the area of the Middle East to stop their attacks and then negotiate for peaceful resolutions with the Israelis. If you say no to that, then it'll be very clear what your motive is.

Yes that is exactly what happened when they made peace with Arafat only to move the goal-post when the question of "Jerusalem" was on the table.

 

[Flankerl]

But.... Arafat left the talks....

 

[faroukfarouk]

But.... Arafat left the talks....

So he was killed for leaving the talks.

 

[Flankerl]

Oh boy I love writing with most Arabs/Muslims. (not all)

Something happened? MinorityX did it.
Something didn't happen? MinorityX did it.


In case of doubt visit MinorityX and kill a few of them because they insulted Islam/Allah/Mohammed/whatever.

 

[LuisDantas]

There is no palestine and nor was there ever an indepndent muslim state of palestine.

False (the first part) and completely irrelevant (the second).

The Jordanian and Egyptian settlers and occupiers can go back to their home countries.

Actually, they can't really, for various serious reasons.

 

[LuisDantas]

To be fair, you don't seem to know what you're talking about - or, rather, you're talking just to hear yourself talk.

Words should matter to Jews. There is a world of difference between, on the one hand, condemning Netanyahu and his despicable chauvinism he both reflects and injects, and, on the other, berating "the genocidal mentality in Israel.' If that difference is unclear to you, you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

I don't know whether I should as well, but that matters not.

I deeply want to believe that there is significant difference between the trends that Netanyahu represents and the path towards genocidal mentality.

If you feel that you have evidence pointing towards that conclusion, then by all means, please give me some hints towards it.

Don't presume to lecture me. I am a long-standing supporter of Meretz, IRAC, and the NIF and have little need for your condescending drivel.

I admire you for that. I hope you and your people succeed over the current tendency towards growing nationalism and militarism.

 

[LuisDantas]

Non participation isn't really support.

What a bunch of wusses.

Purposefully looking the other way is usually understood to be support.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Oh boy I love writing with most Arabs/Muslims. (not all)
Something happened? MinorityX did it.
Something didn't happen? MinorityX did it.
In case of doubt visit MinorityX and kill a few of them because they insulted Islam/Allah/Mohammed/whatever.

Are you running away from the subject?
What does religion got to do with Palestine?

 

[LuisDantas]

Lets be frank.
Dragging your feet with questions is only an excuse to prevent peace.
The day Arafat was killed is the day they killed Mr Peace.
The stumbling block to Mr Peace was "Jerusalem".
Is the Zionist State prepared to give up "Jerusalem"?
Or
Are they preparing "Jerusalem" as their genocidal graveyard?

Since you want us to be frank, tell me: what reason does anyone have to expect peace in the Middle East, even hypothetically withount an Israel?