US officially quits Paris climate accord

[ImmortalFlame]

Evidence does, it's just the evidence I care about doesn't have a 2,000 year "cap". I've studied some data as old as 10,000 years. We're still cooler than then, so to me "climate change" is hype. If anything the Sun has far more impact on these events than what we're doing.

Citation needed.

NASA and NOAA, in particular, are political and not scientific bodies anymore. You really cannot trust their information, so I wouldn't. Information from other places around the world refute almost anything they say in regard to the weather and environment, so I'd take every release they make with utmost caution.

Citation needed.

That opinion has nothing to do with Trump, BTW, I've been interested in the subject for years. Both NASA and NOAA have lied about things like the polar caps, ozone holes, and you name it. They're not trustworthy sources of information in this regard.

Citation needed.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

You barking a wrong tree.

True.

I have no idea whether "wax" would even be necessary for a tinfoil hat. I just thought it sounded appropriate.

 

[Mindmaster]

Citation needed.


Citation needed.


Citation needed.

Google, I'm not your mother -- I don't care if you stay ignorant.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Google, I'm not your mother -- I don't care if you stay ignorant.

The battlecry of the rational person. "X is the case. And if you want evidence of this, er... Look it up yourself!"

Totally reasonable. Although it makes it incredibly easy to destroy your entire argument. As in, I don't even have to, because it's baseless, fact-less nonsense.

 

[leov]

And what is that agenda and what is the evidence of it?


Where is the evidence that NASA actually said this?

Ask those dozens news agencies that reposted that news. Fact is Study: Earth’s Orbit Causes Global Warming Today And Climate Change 1.4 Billion Years Ago, Earth orbit is the mist likely culprit, while man made gases, of course, is a minor contributing factor.

 

[leov]

You barking a wrong tree.

This is what on our plate : Home

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Ask those dozens news agencies that reposted that news.

Or, ask NASA. Who they claim to be quoting.

Fact is Study: Earth’s Orbit Causes Global Warming Today And Climate Change 1.4 Billion Years Ago, Earth orbit is the mist likely culprit, while man made gases, of course, is a minor contributing factor.

By "fact is" I assume you mean "biased, sourceless nonsense is". The paper this links to does not say that modern climate change is due to the earth's orbit. It doesn't even address modern climate change. You have been lied to. (https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/03/06/1502239112.abstract)

"Fluctuating climate is a hallmark of Earth, and the present greenhouse effect is by far the only force affecting today's climate. On a larger scale the Earth's climate is also strongly affected by how the Earth orbits around the sun; this is called orbital forcing of climate change. These changes happen over thousands of years and they bring ice ages and warming periods."
SOURCE: https://phys.org/news/2015-03-today-climate-billion-years.html

Again, you can type "lizard people run the world" and find dozens of news articles making all kinds of crazy claims. Where's the actual science?

I've presented some. Where is yours?

 

[leov]

True.

I have no idea whether "wax" would even be necessary for a tinfoil hat. I just thought it sounded appropriate.

I think your LP is to old and skipping...

 

[robocop (actually)]

You have a reference?

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Not sure if it was levels or emissions.

 

[robocop (actually)]

You must have heard that from the Trumpett himself. He's the only one of late who's been lying about CO2 levels.

From the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, (NOAA). One of the USA's very own scientific agencies.

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"According to the State of the Climate in 2018 report from NOAA and the American
Meteorological Society, global atmospheric carbon dioxide was 407.4 ± 0.1 ppm in
2018, a new record high. That is an increase of 2.5 ± 0.1 ppm from 2017, similar to
the increase of 2.2 ± 0.1 ppm between 2016 and 2017."
source​

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Whatever, I heard we made it to 1996 levels or emissions with our last president.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Google, I'm not your mother -- I don't care if you stay ignorant.

When you make claims you need to support them. We cannot find supposed facts that do not exist.

 

[leov]

US Formally Notifies United Nations of Withdrawal From Paris Climate Accord - State Department
"US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo confirmed Monday that the US had kicked off the formal withdrawal process, while stressing that Washington is proud of its "record as a world leader in reducing all emissions".

Why US does that? Here is why, imo.
Geoengineer the Planet? More Scientists Now Say It Must Be an Option

 

[Subduction Zone]

You have a reference?

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Not sure if it was levels or emissions.

Amateurs quite often do not understand the data. U. S. carbon dioxide emissions per year have been dropping. We were very close to what the levels of the Paris Climate Accord. That was until 2018:

The graph that Christine pasted was total carbon, which of course increases every year because man in general puts out far more carbon dioxide than can be taken out by nature. We were doing rather well. Sad to say things have changed a bit in Washington.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Amateurs quite often do not understand the data. U. S. carbon dioxide emissions per year have been dropping. We were very close to what the levels of the Paris Climate Accord. That was until 2018:

The graph that Christine pasted was total carbon, which of course increases every year because man in general puts out far more carbon dioxide than can be taken out by nature. We were doing rather well. Sad to say things have changed a bit in Washington.

Alright, well, thank you Subduction Zone, but I still wonder... what was the 25-year low figure about?

 

[leov]

Whatever, I heard we made it to 1996 levels or emissions with our last president.

With collapse of petro dollar, the whole new brave world appeared.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Alright, well, thank you Subduction Zone, but I still wonder... what was the 25-year low figure about?

Yearly emissions by the U. S. had been dropping. Until 2018. Not sure of where the idea of a 25 year low came from.

 

[ChristineM]

Not sure if it was levels or emissions.

If it was Whitehouse it was more likely bullpoop

 

[Subduction Zone]

If it was Whitehouse it was more likely bullpoop

Well that's an improvement. Most of tRump,s climate change claims have been bat poop crazy in the past.

 

[robocop (actually)]

With collapse of petro dollar, the whole new brave world appeared.

Yearly emissions by the U. S. had been dropping. Until 2018. Not sure of where the idea of a 25 year low came from.

If it was Whitehouse it was more likely bullpoop

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Energy & Environment | The White House

 

[Subduction Zone]

Energy & Environment | The White House

Looking at that source it appears to be sadly in the batpoop crazy realm. They spend more time sucking off Trump than anything else there.