So which kind of democracy do you live within?
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USA Death Penalty
- Thread starter Secret Chief
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Tamino
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Prison? I live in Germany, but I don't see my country and political system as a prison.
There's no justice in the death penalty to begin with, but there's certainly no justice in executing innocent people.
Oh yea Ronnie told gorby to 'take down this wall'.
So from a christian nation under adolf to a divided population under the grand old commie regime.
Are you guys done paying the reparations for ww2?
If you lost family members to an inequity, you would not make such a claim.
I agree 100% as nothing brings the life back. But it does not mean, end all executions.
Canada.
I have many friends and a few relatives in the US, but I still feel a bit of relief when I cross back into Canada.
Your country has a lot of issues. Visiting the US makes me feel more grateful for the freedoms and opportunities I have here in Canada, because seeing things across the border reminds me that we shouldn't take what we have here for granted.
Secret Chief
Very strong language
Being present isn't normally punishable by death though.
Sorry - did you mean to say "vengeance?" Your post said "justice."
In a free and democratic society, the only tolerable infringement on liberty are those that can be justified. What's the justification for making the leap from life imprisonment to execution?
I've had a similar experience, but it's not linear. There are a few issues that the United States handles better than Canada.
So if a convict wants to avoid being killed for murdering someone, they can go to canada and hang out at the pub?
I know. About like a young child, still learning. Lots of cultures and the capability to travel 1000's of miles without ever showing an ID (papers)
Great wisdom but without US, Canada would perhaps be speaking french or even russian.
Have canadians even heard of Led Zepplin yet?
What about Rush?
Secret Chief
Very strong language
Can Americans spell it yet?
Sure - Canada certainly isn't perfect. On the whole, though... I feel more free in Canada than in the US.
I remember especially after the Patriot Act was passed being very aware that thing most protecting me from arbitrary detention was my skin colour and not my legal rights.
If you had a loss of life in your family by a criminal, justice is the term to find and execute the person. To make sure that they do not do it to another.
Vengeance is closer to an old world methodology. You know like the british, french, cultures.
Exactly. See canadians do learn from US
The crime, costs and punishment level.
What?!
Is this your way of saying that you've never been outside the US?
Your understanding of history seems... suspect.
The last invasion of Canada was by terrorists operating out of the US. The second-last invasion of the US was by the American military itself.
I can't tell if you're trying to make a joke.
Depends on how much it matters.
Could be easier to just impose a death penalty and apologize later.
That's not what I meant by justification.
Give an actual rational argument that ends with the conclusion "therefore, the punishment for some crimes needs to be death."
Secret Chief
Very strong language
You're not alone.
Robbery murder.
Murder rape
therefore, the punishment for such crimes must be death.
Are you done playing the game of why the US is so much better than canada?
Incoherent, but thanks for trying, I guess.
I'm certainly not going to encourage you to move here.
Secret Chief
Very strong language
You need a wall.
