psychoslice
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I will admit that is very interesting, I will look into that.
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Vaccination and Religious Beliefs
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psychoslice
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The Polio Vaccine Myth: “The Vaccine Stopped Polio”
The Polio Vaccine Myth: “The Vaccine Stopped Polio” | Collective-Evolution
The Polio Vaccine Myth: “The Vaccine Stopped Polio” | Collective-Evolution
Find another source. Anything that has ads for "scientifically proven benefits of meditation" is dangerously close to new-age bull****.
McBell
Unbound
You know what they call alternative medicine that works?
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Its what we need, a new age of thinking better about our health.
McBell
Unbound
psychoslice
Veteran Member
I don't know about killing of the populace, but I tell you I want to kill that bloody bug running around on your page.
shawn001
Well-Known Member
Out of all due respect, what if you avoiding the vaccine personally caused millions of deaths from disease outbreak. Would you be okay with that?
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Yeah you do know that vaccines produce ANTI BODIES!! You know what an antibody is or does, don't you? And that vaccines aren't infecting you, it's just like a simulation or like a "pretend" infection.
Types of Vaccines, just FYI (highlighted by myself)
Live,
attenuated vaccines fight viruses. These vaccines contain a
version of the living virus that has been weakened so that it does
not cause serious disease in people with healthy immune systems.
Because live, attenuated vaccines are the closest thing to a
natural infection, they are good teachers for the immune system.
Examples of live, attenuated vaccines include measles, mumps,
Inactivated vaccines.
These vaccines are made by inactivating, or killing, the virus during the process of making the vaccine. The inactivated polio vaccine is an example of this type of vaccine. Inactivated vaccines produce immune responses in different ways than live, attenuated vaccines.
Toxoid
vaccines prevent diseases caused by bacteria that produce toxins (poisons) in the body. In the process of making these vaccines, the toxins are weakened so they cannot cause illness. Weakened toxins are called toxoids. When the immune system receives a vaccine containing a toxoid, it learns how to fight off the natural toxin. The DTaP vaccine contains diphtheria and tetanus toxoids.
• Subunit
vaccines include only parts of the virus or bacteria, or subunits, instead of the entire germ. Because these vaccines contain only the essential antigens and not all the other molecules that make up the germ, side effects are less common. The pertussis (whooping cough) component of the DTaP vaccine
Conjugate
vaccines fight a different type of bacteria. These bacteria have antigens with an outer coating of sugar-like substances called polysaccharides. This type of coating disguises the antigen, making it hard for a young child’s immature immune system to recognize it and respond to it. Conjugate vaccines are effective for these types of bacteria because they connect (or conjugate) the polysaccharides to antigens that the immune system responds to very well. This linkage helps the immature immune system react to the coating and develop an immune response. An example of this type of vaccine is the Haemophilus influenzae type B (Hib) vaccine.
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/patient-ed/conversations/downloads/vacsafe-understand-color-office.pdf&ei=o-IxVYSGI-XRmAWCuYCwCw&usg=AFQjCNEa4R6CH8HZYk7OWi3cKsYlME1x-A&sig2=hfxPPRELiHGqWodH3b1e0A&bvm=bv.91071109,d.dGY
Your links go to alternative medical websites (which is a red flag in my view. They're not who I'd necessarily go to for treatment of rabies or polio or the like, if you get me? And I say that even as a supporter of natural medicine) and links with a video of that crazy lady from the NVIC. I've heard of that institution, didn't some of their members lose their medical license? I think one of their lectures which was supposed to happen in Australia got shut down, because the people who partnered with them accused them of lying or something. Or maybe it was another anti vaxer lady, can't remember now. Sorry, my mind tends to wander a bit.
Anyway, have any studies that are peer reviewed that say what you are suggesting? Just curious.
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psychoslice
Veteran Member
Its like asking me there is a god, no, it just wont happen.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Those things help, but they are not full proof, and cannot guarantee the absence of illness. Vaccines help with what our body naturally couldn't do on its own.
Public health is not on par with being a Nazi. In many ways, in many circumstances, the will of the individual is restricted for the good of the larger population. Vaccines are not only proven effective at preventing disease, they are safe. And even if a few infants to have a bad reaction, it's far better than allowing a few thousand to contract polio because parents wouldn't vaccinate their kids.
Shame on you for invoking Godwin's law multiple times. Any person who actually survived the Holocaust would be enraged at such usage of their history. For good reason! The Nazis aren't some emotional blackmail tool you can throw around at people to try and get them to listen to you.
Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Yea you can believe whatever you like, if you want to believe the lies of the Who, then that's your choice.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Listen he did it to himself, I knew nothing about him, and I have already explained that its nothing to do with the war, its using the N word as an analogy, if he didn't see it that way, then its nothing to do with me, ,many used the N word to describe people who destroys others, is he going to through life trying to avoid every person who uses the words..........are we also suppose to not mention the war so as to not upset Germans ?.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Ok, I'll make it easy on you, I don't agree with you as you don't agree with me, we are just going back and forward, you have your fears to protect, so I will disappear from this thread, but you have to admit, I did make it fun for you lol.
Godwin's law means you make an unfair connection to the Holocaust perpetrated by Nazis. YOU made the analogy in the first place, no one else and did so for many posts.If your analogy were not unbalanced, no one would call you out on it. Since it is, you are using a logical fallacy and insulting people who were tortured, maimed, killed and experimented on. It has nothing to do with other people's reactions.
Take some responsibility, man!
Poisonshady313
Well-Known Member
You are taking something, vaccines, that is so obviously and observably beneficial for mankind, and comparing the administration of them to Nazis, who were so obviously evil and destructive to mankind.
Your persistent use of this analogy can only make one believe you have no respect for the seriousness of the holocaust, or not the slightest clue of what you're talking about when it comes to vaccination. Or both.
Maybe, until you brought up the Nazis in a desperate Godwin's law attempt. Then I can only describe my reaction as utterly appalled.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Actually, it's not fun, but rather sad that junk science prevails in some. Vaccines have been placed under so much scrutiny, but study after study after study have shown they are safe and effective.
Have you ever actually seen an iron lung? If you haven't, that is because of vaccines. If you have, you haven't seen many or seen them in a long time.