So you don't care whether or not you're being duped? You just believe him without question?
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Vaccination and Religious Beliefs
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So you don't care whether or not you're being duped? You just believe him without question?
Poisonshady313
Well-Known Member
I did watch, and my suspicions are well founded. This idiot tells a room full of people that autism is included as a "side effect" in the insert for the DTP.
I looked at the insert. It's listed in a paragraph that starts "Adverse events reported during post approval use..." and ends "Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine."
For a guy who likes to go on about the medical system manipulating people by not having them read closely enough, he is quite the hypocrite. Not to be trusted.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Watch it, make your own mind up, there are other video's of him also, he is very good and seems to know what he is talking about.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Well that you opinion, not mine, I am not here to change anyone's opinion, if we were talking about religion, we would be in trouble for trying to convert lol.
Poisonshady313
Well-Known Member
Do what you like and don't expect me to enjoy, agree with, or approve of it. Trust whom you like. I'm happy to admit that labeling an individual as someone who is not to be trusted is indeed me giving my opinion.
However, I hope the casual observer is smart enough to appreciate the fact that this guy is indeed, as a matter of fact, a hypocrite. And I demonstrated this fact by putting his own words up against the words of the very document that he wants his audience to believe supports his claims.
Poisonshady313
Well-Known Member
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Well I am going to take his words over yours that's for sure, I think he knows more than you lol.
Poisonshady313
Well-Known Member
The fact (and sure, I'll grant this as fact) that he knows more than me doesn't mean you ought to take his words over mine. He is better equipped to lie to you. A well presented lie contains enough truth to make the liar seem credible. And with a bit of sleight of hand, he pulls the quarter from behind your ear, and you're eager to convince the rest of us that the quarter really was there all along.
I saw through his smoke and mirrors and exposed him for being an illusionist. If you wish to mourn for the poor woman who you saw him saw in half, that's your business.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Don't carry on, your just as usual a judgmental person who thinks he knows it all, I have said what I have said and that's it, why are you carrying on and trying to push your beliefs down my neck, I'm not interested in what you have to say at all, period.
Poisonshady313
Well-Known Member
You may be a lost cause, but others reading this thread may still be saved.
You don't have to listen to me if you don't wish to. Just as I don't have to listen to that sake oil salesman push his lies about vaccines causing autism and other such nonsense.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Well keep to yourself, ignore me, no one here is going to push me around, I am discussed with how some here act like witch hunters, shame on you.
Poisonshady313
Well-Known Member
Likewise.
Shame on that guy in the video you posted. He's the one who lied about the DTP vaccine causing autism, not me.
McBell
Unbound
What is that saying... "Methinks thou dost protest too much"?
One wonders why you have not yet convinced yourself you do not care....
psychoslice
Veteran Member
I don't care, I have been inflicted with years of elliptic fits and later in life with schizophrenia by a vaccine, I know what I am talking about and no o0ne here is going to change that. That is all U really came here, just to share that story, and it has blown out of proportion all because of know it all's who I think know nothing.
This isn't about what you believe. This is about what we know, and the consequences of ignoring it. There is not a single microbiologist or disease expert who agrees with you. Your position is supported entirely by those least qualified to talk about it.
We had almost utterly eradicated countless diseases, either in the first-world or the entire world. And then comes your brood, and now we've got epidemics of diseases that we haven't seen in decades. Nothing just 'dies out' on its own, be it animal, plant or what have you. Viruses don't magically go away either.
Vaccinations are the only weapon we have, and it is mind-bogglingly effective when used large-scale. But now we're back at step one. All because people like you pretend to know more than specialists in their field, and whos arguments are made up solely of hear-say.
Poisonshady313
Well-Known Member
There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest vaccines cause either epilepsy or schizophrenia.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
And so you believe, I don't, can't you handle that ?, or do you need to be right when maybe you could be wrong.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
So you say, and I don't agree with you, if you keep getting your info through FDA or WHO, or whatever medical science, you will always hear what they wan yout to hear. Its like the tobacco industry, it took years to prove that smoking was bad, even doctors once recommended it, the same thing is happening with the vaccination scandal.
A belief is that which you feel is true but have no concrete evidence for. You have a belief about vaccines. I've got facts, figures & decades-long studies from every corner of the planet.
Your move.
InChrist
Free4ever
There are plenty of valid reasons to question the safety of concoctions of chemicals, viruses, bacteria, and toxins called vaccines which are injected directly into the blood stream, especially of infants and young children with immature immune systems. Do your own research, it's important.
The International Medical Council on Vaccination is an association of medical doctors, registered nurses and other qualified medical professionals whose purpose is to counter the messages asserted by pharmaceutical companies, the government and medical agencies that vaccines are safe, effective and harmless. Our conclusions have been reached individually by each member of the Council, after thousands of hours of personal research, study and observation. - See more at: About | International Medical Council on Vaccination
Vaccination Dangers Can Kill You or Ruin Your Life
Basically, vaccines contain either killed viruses or bacteria, germ components, toxic extracts or live organisms that have been made less virulent--a process called attenuation. To stimulate an enhanced immune reaction against these organisms, manufacturers added powerful immune-stimulating substances such as squalene, aluminum, lipopolysacchride, etc. These are called immune adjuvants.
The process of vaccination usually required repeated injections of the vaccine over a set period of time. The combination of adjuvants plus the intended organism triggers an immune response by the body, similar to that occurring with natural infections, except for one major difference. Almost none of these diseases enter the body by injection. Most enter by way of the mucous membranes of the nose, mouth, pulmonary passages or GI tract. For example, polio is known to enter via the GI tract. The membranes lining these passages contain a different immune system than activated by direct injection. This system is called the IgA immune system.
It is the first line of defense and helps reduce the need for intense activation of the body’s immune system. Often, the IgA system can completely head off an attack. The point being that injecting organisms to induce immunity is abnormal.
articles/archive/2004/05/12/vaccination-dangers.aspx
The International Medical Council on Vaccination is an association of medical doctors, registered nurses and other qualified medical professionals whose purpose is to counter the messages asserted by pharmaceutical companies, the government and medical agencies that vaccines are safe, effective and harmless. Our conclusions have been reached individually by each member of the Council, after thousands of hours of personal research, study and observation. - See more at: About | International Medical Council on Vaccination
Vaccination Dangers Can Kill You or Ruin Your Life
Basically, vaccines contain either killed viruses or bacteria, germ components, toxic extracts or live organisms that have been made less virulent--a process called attenuation. To stimulate an enhanced immune reaction against these organisms, manufacturers added powerful immune-stimulating substances such as squalene, aluminum, lipopolysacchride, etc. These are called immune adjuvants.
The process of vaccination usually required repeated injections of the vaccine over a set period of time. The combination of adjuvants plus the intended organism triggers an immune response by the body, similar to that occurring with natural infections, except for one major difference. Almost none of these diseases enter the body by injection. Most enter by way of the mucous membranes of the nose, mouth, pulmonary passages or GI tract. For example, polio is known to enter via the GI tract. The membranes lining these passages contain a different immune system than activated by direct injection. This system is called the IgA immune system.
It is the first line of defense and helps reduce the need for intense activation of the body’s immune system. Often, the IgA system can completely head off an attack. The point being that injecting organisms to induce immunity is abnormal.
articles/archive/2004/05/12/vaccination-dangers.aspx