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Verifiable evidence for creationism?

Is there any verifiable evidence for creationism?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 19.0%

  • No

    Votes: 85 81.0%
  • Total voters
    105
Riders

Riders

Well-Known Member
Great see Im dislexic dont have any real smart evidence,Im not a scientist so glad your here with evidence and someone who can verbalize it. ALl I know is I believe in Prehistoric earth and also dinosoars and prehistoric men which does not fit the biblical adam and eve. I know I believe in evolution.But Its good having smart tpeople who can communicate way better then me explain my side Gnostic.
 
Sapiens

Sapiens

Polymathematician
james bond said:
Ha ha.

SERIOUS IGNORANCE ALERT! The Bible is the biggest Non-Fiction selling book of all time and is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records. Not only that, Christians invented science.

Georges Lemaitre.

Are you an atheist or something?
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No, the Ancient Greeks and Egyptians invented science long before the Christians existed.
 
james bond

james bond

Well-Known Member
Sapiens said:
No, the Ancient Greeks and Egyptians invented science long before the Christians existed.
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Ha ha, so you base your worldview on the ancient Greeks and Egyptioans. That would explain a lot about your views, Sapiens.

The science I am talking about is modern science and the scientific method to show how great God is.
 
james bond

james bond

Well-Known Member
Riders said:
Great see Im dislexic dont have any real smart evidence,Im not a scientist so glad your here with evidence and someone who can verbalize it. ALl I know is I believe in Prehistoric earth and also dinosoars and prehistoric men which does not fit the biblical adam and eve. I know I believe in evolution.But Its good having smart tpeople who can communicate way better then me explain my side Gnostic.
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Thank you for believing in dinosaurs and prehistoric humans. You are on the right path with this. As for evolution and Gnostic, try to compare what it says to what the Bible says and make up your own mind.

The reason why the Biblical Adam and Eve does not fit is because they are PRE-FLOOD ancient people. Most people are familiar with Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel (pre-flood people) from the Old Testament. The prehistoric humans are post-flood humans. The flood changed so much. One of the post-flood humans is Moses which we were talking about. During his time, he had no concept of an afterlife. Where the afterlife came in was when Jesus of Nazareth was crucified, died, buried and resurrected on the third day. That was when we were saved and the afterlife began.

The Bible does have a timeline even though it does not talk about the age of the Earth. Compared to the evolution timeline, it is as follows:

creation-timeline.jpg
 
Sapiens

Sapiens

Polymathematician
Rowan said:
You misunderstand me.
I think it's funny that this must be discussed. If there was evidence for creationism we would all be creationists. It does not exist.
I do not understand how anyone could fill 153 pages of argument on this topic.

If there was evidence it would remove all "Faith" from religion.
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There has been no real argument, 153 pages and no one advances any evidence. That says it all. If you ask for evidence for evolution, the first page will have reams of it.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
james bond said:
Thank you for believing in dinosaurs and prehistoric humans. You are on the right path with this. As for evolution and Gnostic, try to compare what it says to what the Bible says and make up your own mind.

The reason why the Biblical Adam and Eve does not fit is because they are PRE-FLOOD ancient people. Most people are familiar with Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel (pre-flood people) from the Old Testament. The prehistoric humans are post-flood humans. The flood changed so much. One of the post-flood humans is Moses which we were talking about. During his time, he had no concept of an afterlife. Where the afterlife came in was when Jesus of Nazareth was crucified, died, buried and resurrected on the third day. That was when we were saved and the afterlife began.

The Bible does have a timeline even though it does not talk about the age of the Earth. Compared to the evolution timeline, it is as follows:

creation-timeline.jpg
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This is something that needs to be backed up with evidence, rather than simply being boldly asserted without any evidence.
 
james bond

james bond

Well-Known Member
Rowan said:
You misunderstand me.
I think it's funny that this must be discussed. If there was evidence for creationism we would all be creationists. It does not exist.
I do not understand how anyone could fill 153 pages of argument on this topic.

If there was evidence it would remove all "Faith" from religion.
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I think you're changing the subject because you were caught making a fallacious argument.

Last point first. If you remove "faith" from religion, then there won't be any including atheism or evolution.

As for the rest, it's your opinion and you felt compelled to join in, so it makes you just as culpable of filling part of the pages. Accept the responsibility or blame for your opinionated contribution.
 
james bond

james bond

Well-Known Member
SkepticThinker said:
This is something that needs to be backed up with evidence, rather than simply being boldly asserted without any evidence.
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Ha ha. You're rich. Like evolutionists have backed up anything we discussed. If any of it was true, then the Lucy exhibit would have been a success. Not only did it fail, the evos cannot agree on what it looked like. According to our new member joining in, we have 153 pages of evidence but very few converts. It's typical I suppose.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
james bond said:
Ha ha. You're rich. Like evolutionists have backed up anything we discussed. If any of it was true, then the Lucy exhibit would have been a success. Not only did it fail, the evos cannot agree on what it looked like. According to our new member joining in, we have 153 pages of evidence but very few converts. It's typical I suppose.
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Evolution is very well evidenced. The lack of success of an exhibit in a museum has nothing to do with anything.

This thread is titled "Verifiable evidence for creationism?" Judging from your inability to produce any, it is apparent that the answer is "no."
 
james bond

james bond

Well-Known Member
SkepticThinker said:
Evolution is very well evidenced. The lack of success of an exhibit in a museum has nothing to do with anything.

This thread is titled "Verifiable evidence for creationism?" Judging from your inability to produce any, it is apparent that the answer is "no."
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Evolution is not evidenced at all. One of the issues of evolution we touched upon and that it's racist. Darwin had a racist attitude and it's well catalogued. Let's go to South Africa and in front of 10,000 angry black South Africans, I want you to explain how they're ancestors of a chimpanzee-like-ape. They ask you if we're descendants, then how come there are still apes? You mumble your evo notes. Then they ask why are the missing links still missing? You mumble some more. After that they ask why are the atheist and evolution leaders all white? A few yell out why can't dolphins talk by now and do our taxes if they're so smart? They yell we did not come from the sea. Their leader is too exasperated by your answers that all 10,000 charge you and get their frustrations out. I'll just have to stand on the sidelines and watch ST.
 
james bond

james bond

Well-Known Member
Rowan said:
I think you misunderstood and am trying to impose that on me.


I will.
You should accept that you made a mistake and it doesn't have anything to do with me. There was no "argument" being made.
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Well, you came off awful strong and made that statement and belittled the 153 pages.

Fine with me.

What mistake did I make? I can accept the only thing to do with you is your fallacious argument and the rest being opinions.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
james bond said:
Evolution is not evidenced at all. One of the issues of evolution we touched upon and that it's racist. Darwin had a racist attitude and it's well catalogued. Let's go to South Africa and in front of 10,000 angry black South Africans, I want you to explain how they're ancestors of a chimpanzee-like-ape. They ask you if we're descendants, then how come there are still apes? You mumble your evo notes. Then they ask why are the missing links still missing? You mumble some more. After that they ask why are the atheist and evolution leaders all white? A few yell out why can't dolphins talk by now and do our taxes if they're so smart? They yell we did not come from the sea. Their leader is too exasperated by your answers that all 10,000 charge you and get their frustrations out. I'll just have to stand on the sidelines and watch ST.
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Why do you insist on deflecting from the thread topic?

Go ahead and falsify evolution then, and claim your Nobel Prize. The thing is, even if you were able to do that, you still wouldn't have proven creationism. You wouldn't have even started yet. You need evidence FOR your hypothesis. You need to back it up with something besides these ridiculous arguments that you somehow think refute evolution in some way. You need to stop trotting out tired out canards that have been debunked eight ways from Sunday and start finding some evidence in favour of creationism.
 
Riders

Riders

Well-Known Member
If Adam and Eve are evidence of creationism then why do we have evidence of scrolls written the same time by different religions concocting similar creation stories but some were different. How could Adam and EVe be intelligent and talk and build stuff if the apes that walked upright becomeing the first prehistoric man couldnt do any thing except walk upright live in nature without having to live in trees? They couldnt talk and plan stuff out and build things. they hunted and found food and had sex and babies period.
 
james bond

james bond

Well-Known Member
SkepticThinker said:
Why do you insist on deflecting from the thread topic?

Go ahead and falsify evolution then, and claim your Nobel Prize. The thing is, even if you were able to do that, you still wouldn't have proven creationism. You wouldn't have even started yet. You need evidence FOR your hypothesis. You need to back it up with something besides these ridiculous arguments that you somehow think refute evolution in some way. You need to stop trotting out tired out canards that have been debunked eight ways from Sunday and start finding some evidence in favour of creationism.
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Ha ha. I thought you did not understand science from the get go and that is what I still believe. I already falsified evo and so have the creation scientists. Is it my fault you do not understand and be able to explain science? That's okay. Nothing to be ashamed of.

What you should be ashamed of is you believe is what the leftist leaders tell you to believe. BOW DOWN BEFORE YOUR POWERFUL LEFTIST LEADERS AND THEIR COMMUNIST THOUGHTS YOU PEASANT!

What my first impressions of you is true. You are incapable of thinking for yourself. Just another shill for the evos.

Basically, the evo scientists have not proven evolution, anthropoligical global warming, not any of the mentally ill claims of leftists, atheists and evolutionists.

I think I did the better job of destroying evolution and my arguments weren't ridiculous. The conclusion I reached was you provided no answers, so I have no idea why you believe in evolution but the above. At this point, I really do not care what you believe. You'll continue to be ST and that's fine with me. We are done Mr. ST.
 
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