Verifiable evidence for creationism?

[Thief]

You mean God created humans just for some company? Like I might get a cat?

if you can....and I'm sure that you can....

see yourself as the First in mind and heart.
and then realizing you are alone.

your own Voice as an Echo would be entertaining for awhile....

but being in more than one place simultaneously (many believe He can).....
you then grow tired of talking to your own reflection

substance is the only other item to work with
and so.....spirit into dust

when the dust fails the spirit within comes forth

if you have what it takes to'walk' with God......fine and good
no problem

 

[leibowde84]

I am convinced you do understand that what is created gives proof of a Creator.

• Living things are brilliantly design, according to all available evidence
• Complex design requires an intelligent designer, according to all available evidence
• Intelligence requires a mind, according to all available evidence
• A intelligent mind does not exist apart from a person, according to all available evidence

Can you provide any evidence for your first two bullets? I agree with the second two.

 

[leibowde84]

still making denial for lack of 'evidence' of intelligent life greater than you own.....

and a Creator should be content talking to mold?

Not sure what this means.

 

[Thief]

Not sure what this means.

then sit awhile and think about it

 

[outhouse]

then sit awhile and think about it

The title of this thread is Verifiable evidence for creationism.

IT IS NOT unverifiable imagination for creation mythology

 

[Thief]

and I thought we covered that angle.....

how many times?.....how many threads?

 

[leibowde84]

then sit awhile and think about it

Actually, a lot of your comments seem to be completely off topic. For example, I never claimed that there is no higher intelligence. We were discussing specific evidence for it being necessarily the case. Can you explain how your comment was relevant to this?

 

[leibowde84]

and I thought we covered that angle.....

how many times?.....how many threads?

Still haven't seen any verifiable evidence in all those threads. Merely inferences have been provided, which aren't verifiable.

 

[rusra02]

Did it prophecy anything that was not also in the bible? Something useful like the discovery of penicillin?
Managing to predict things that happen later in the same book fails to impress me.

Yes, it foretells the end of all human governments, and the establishing of God's Kingdom that will last forever. (Daniel 2:44)

 

[rusra02]

Quote it. You have no credibility or authority so your word cannot be trusted alone.



Quote it

"There are 70 weeks that have been determined for your people and your holy city, in order to terminate the transgression, to finish off sin, to make atonement for error, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up the vision and the prophecy, and to anoint the Holy of Holies. You should know and understand that from the issuing of the word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem until Mes·siʹah the Leader, there will be 7 weeks, also 62 weeks. She will be restored and rebuilt, with a public square and moat, but in times of distress. “And after the 62 weeks, Mes·siʹah will be cut off, with nothing for himself.“And the people of a leader who is coming will destroy the city and the holy place. And its end will be by the flood. And until the end there will be war; what is decided upon is desolations. “And he will keep the covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week, he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease.“ (Daniel 9:24-27)

 

[Midnight Rain]

Yes, it foretells the end of all human governments, and the establishing of God's Kingdom that will last forever. (Daniel 2:44)

And what year did it say it will happen in?

 

[outhouse]

"There are 70 weeks that have been determined for your people and your holy city, in order to terminate the transgression, to finish off sin, to make atonement for error, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up the vision and the prophecy, and to anoint the Holy of Holies. You should know and understand that from the issuing of the word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem until Mes·siʹah the Leader, there will be 7 weeks, also 62 weeks. She will be restored and rebuilt, with a public square and moat, but in times of distress. “And after the 62 weeks, Mes·siʹah will be cut off, with nothing for himself.“And the people of a leader who is coming will destroy the city and the holy place. And its end will be by the flood. And until the end there will be war; what is decided upon is desolations. “And he will keep the covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week, he will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease.“ (Daniel 9:24-27)

Not credible historically speaking.

That is one version of ancient mens theology and mythology.

 

[rusra02]

Can you provide any evidence for your first two bullets? I agree with the second two.

There are such brilliant designs everywhere. Here are just a few:

• Air conditioning in termite mounds
• The anchoring skill of the razor clam
• The navigation skill of the dung beetle
• The storage ability of DNA

 

[leibowde84]

There are such brilliant designs everywhere. Here are just a few:

• Air conditioning in termite mounds
• The anchoring skill of the razor clam
• The navigation skill of the dung beetle
• The storage ability of DNA

Again, I agree that these things exist. But, what evidence is there that they were necessarily designed? Why would you base your belief on nothing more than what seems right to you? Where is the evidence?

 

[rusra02]

And what year did it say it will happen in?

I believe Daniel chapter 4 gives the information necessary to determine the year when God sets up his Kingdom in heaven. As to the exact "day and hour" when The Kingdom will "crush and put an end" to all human governments, Jesus said no one knows but God. (Matthew 24:36) However, I believe Jesus gave a detailed prophecy of events that would indicate when this system's end is near. (Matthew 24)

 

[rusra02]

Again, I agree that these things exist. But, what evidence is there that they were necessarily designed? Why would you base your belief on nothing more than what seems right to you? Where is the evidence?

Where is the evidence a beautiful painting has an artist?

 

[rusra02]

Not credible historically speaking.

That is one version of ancient mens theology and mythology.

Yet, Jesus Christ appeared as the Messiah, right on time, and Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed, as the prophecy stated.

 

[Midnight Rain]

I believe Daniel chapter 4 gives the information necessary to determine the year when God sets up his Kingdom in heaven. As to the exact "day and hour" when The Kingdom will "crush and put an end" to all human governments, Jesus said no one knows but God. (Matthew 24:36) However, I believe Jesus gave a detailed prophecy of events that would indicate when this system's end is near. (Matthew 24)

But it hasn't come true yet. If and when it does i'll admit it was evidence.

 

[leibowde84]

Where is the evidence a beautiful painting has an artist?

We know paintings have a creator because they are inorganic creations. We know and have evidence of the process. I am asking evidence for organic life necessarily having a creator. Man made creations are not in question. There is no evidence that complex organic life forms have a creator. You keep on dodging the question by pointing to irrelevant man made creations.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Where is the evidence a beautiful painting has an artist?

The artist, for starters.