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Was Islam spread by the sword?

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paarsurrey

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Yes of course. The ERE and Sassanid Empire OBVIOUSLY were the aggressive ones. They obviously wanted to rule the... desert with its high quality sand.

A truthful prophet/messenger, Muhammad, from G-d has been sent. The ERE and Sassanid Empire must have welcomed Muhammad and sent their emissaries as a gesture of good-will and welcome.

Did they send one?

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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Was Islam spread by the sword?

No.

For example:

Spread of Islam in Lebanon: [2]

The most recent study conducted by Statistics Lebanon, a Beirut-based research firm, found that approximately Lebanon's population is estimated to be 54% Muslim (27% Shia; 27% Sunni), 5.6% Druze, who do not consider themselves to be Muslims, 40.4%Christian (21% Maronite, 8% Greek Orthodox, 5% Melkite Catholic, and 6.4% other Christian denominations like Armenian Orthodox, Syriac Catholic, Armenian Catholic, Syriac Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Chaldean, Assyrian, Copt, Protestant).[3]

Even though Lebanon is a secular country, family matters such as marriage, divorce and inheritance are still handled by the religious authorities representing a person's faith. Calls for civil marriage are unanimously rejected by the religious authorities but civil marriages held in another country are recognized by Lebanese civil authorities.

Legally registered Muslims form around 54% of the population (Shia, Sunni, Alawite). Legally registered Christians form up to 41% (Maronite, Greek Orthodox-Christian, Greek Catholic, Armenian, Evangelical, other). Druze form around 4%. Lebanon thus differs from other Middle Eastern countries and more resembles Bosnia-Herzegovina and Albania, in SoutheasternEurope, in having a diverse mix of Muslims and Christians that each make up approximately half the population.

Even though non-religion is not recognized by the state, the Minister of the Interior Ziad Baroud made it possible in 2009 to have the religious sect removed from the Lebanese identity card. This does not, however, deny the religious authorities complete control over civil family issues inside the country.[6][7]

Geographical distribution of sects in Lebanon[edit]

Sunnis are mainly residents of the major cities: west Beirut, Tripoli, and Sidon. Sunnis are also present in rural areas including Akkar, Ikleem al Kharoub, and the western Beqaa Valley.

Shias are concentrated in Southern Lebanon, Baalbek, Hermel District and the southern suburbs of Beirut.

Christians are concentrated in east Beirut and its suburbs, the area north of Mount Lebanon, Zahlé, and Jezzine.

Druze are concentrated south of Mount Lebanon and in the Hasbaya District.

Religion in Lebanon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't see any sword in spread of Islam in Lebanon.

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Flankerl

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A truthful prophet/messenger, Muhammad, from G-d has been sent. The ERE and Sassanid Empire must have welcomed Muhammad and sent their emissaries as a gesture of good-will and welcome.

Did they send one?

Regards

lol what?

Why would they give a **** about some arabian caravan raider who claims to be a prophet?
 

jonathan180iq

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Had the Meccans not got engaged Muhammad in aggressive wars being made by Meccans and Medina, this might have happened?
They continuously got engaged Muhammad on defensive endevours. No peace time was afforded to Muhammad to send missionaries to the entire world including Eastern Rome or Sassanid Iran.

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Right here. Regardless of whatever else is said - it's an admission that the "sword" was used, is it not?

"Well, he had to spread his religion with the sword because he was always under attack..."

Done.
 

1robin

Christian/Baptist
A truthful prophet/messenger, Muhammad, from G-d has been sent. The ERE and Sassanid Empire must have welcomed Muhammad and sent their emissaries as a gesture of good-will and welcome.

Did they send one?

Regards

You mean the guy who thought he was possessed and considered suicide when called? The guy who describe Gabriel with the exact same description the bible made for demons? The guy who foamed at the mouth and made animal noises just like the description of demonic influence?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
You mean the guy who thought he was possessed and considered suicide when called? The guy who describe Gabriel with the exact same description the bible made for demons? The guy who foamed at the mouth and made animal noises just like the description of demonic influence?

You are simply wrong.

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paarsurrey

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Right here. Regardless of whatever else is said - it's an admission that the "sword" was used, is it not?

"Well, he had to spread his religion with the sword because he was always under attack..."

Done.

All his intentions were for lasting peace as Islam spreads most in peace time. One cannot convert others with force or violence.

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jonathan180iq

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All his intentions were for lasting peace as Islam spreads most in peace time. One cannot convert others with force or violence.

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But, Historically, you are mistaken.

A religion may garner more serious converts during peace time. As long as prosperity exists then people dive deeper into whatever culture they are surrounded in. But in order to advance the borders of religious influence and impose it on a larger swatch of the world population, it is done so violently.

give me a few and I'll post some helpful information
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
But, Historically, you are mistaken.

A religion may garner more serious converts during peace time. As long as prosperity exists then people dive deeper into whatever culture they are surrounded in. But in order to advance the borders of religious influence and impose it on a larger swatch of the world population, it is done so violently.

give me a few and I'll post some helpful information

I did not mention historically, I meant realistically.

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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Was Islam spread by the sword?

No.

For example:

Spread of Islam in Kuwait:

Islam is the main religion of the citizens of Kuwait and the majority of Kuwait's citizen population is Muslim; there are no official figures, but it is estimated that 60-70% are Sunni and 30-40% are Shias.[1]

In 2001, there were 525,000 Sunni Kuwaiti citizens, 300,000 Shia Kuwaiti citizens and 820,000 Kuwaiti citizens in total thus Sunnis formed 64% and Shias formed 36.5% of the Kuwaiti citizen population.[2] In 2002, the US Department of State reported that Shia Kuwaitis formed 30%-40% of Kuwait's citizen population,[3] noting there were 525,000 Sunni Kuwaiti citizens and 855,000 Kuwaiti citizens in total (61% Sunnis, 39% Shias).[3]

In 2004, there were 600,000 Sunni Kuwaitis citizens, 300,000-350,000 Shia Kuwaiti citizens and 913,000 Kuwaiti citizens in total.[4] In 2008, theStrategic Studies Institute reported that 40% of Kuwaiti citizens were Shias.[1]
The population of Kuwait is ethnically diverse, due to migration and large expatriate communities. Kuwaitis represent 45% of the total population.[5]

There are several groups of natives in Kuwait; the largest native groups are Arabs and Persians.[6][7]

The large expatriate community accounts for between half and two-thirds of the population, with Kuwait government figures stating the higher proportion.[5][8] It is composed of Arabs from other countries, Iranians, Pakistanis and Indians.[5]

Islam in Kuwait - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't see any sword in spread of Islam in Kuwait.

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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
lol what?

Why would they give a **** about some arabian caravan raider who claims to be a prophet?

Were they arrogant people not to listen to a truthful prophet?
They opposed Muhammad like the opponents of Moses. Didn't they?
And you take their side.

Your stance is against Torah. Torah does not command to oppose a truthful prophet.
Does it?

Regards
 
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jonathan180iq

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History is not 100% correct, humans write it, and to err is human.

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1robin

Christian/Baptist
History is not 100% correct, humans write it, and to err is human.

Regards
I find in Islam we have the rare capability of only lying about bad stuff while getting all the good stuff true. I find that in defense of no other faith other that Islam at least in these quantities.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
So you don't want historical references that are corroborated by independent contemporary sources of the time? You just want something "realistic"... like, from the Quran, I assume?

History is a useful tool but it has its limitations and obvious errors.

Isn't it?

Regards
 
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