Was Muhammad a good man?

[Sha'irullah]

Sounds like you're describing Christian history! lol

I believe the "sword is in the other hand"

 

[1robin]

Interestingly enough, 58.97 % (to date) don't think he was such a great guy. Go figure.

Especially considering all his Santa Claus like benevolence. There is a story in one the 5 billion Hadiths that simply killing some folks and throwing them down a well was not good enough. He had to have them brought back to life so he could taunt them with his rapier wit before letting them (or forcing them) to die again. I make no claim it is accurate, as the accuracy of any hadith is only as good as who you ask or how convenient what it claims is.

 

[Assad91]

Especially considering all his Santa Claus like benevolence. There is a story in one the 5 billion Hadiths that simply killing some folks and throwing them down a well was not good enough. He had to have them brought back to life so he could taunt them with his rapier wit before letting them (or forcing them) to die again. I make no claim it is accurate, as the accuracy of any hadith is only as good as who you ask or how convenient what it claims is.

Better then believing a Prophet banged his own daughters. O got to drunk and feel asleep naked for his sons to see.Or believe one had a man killed just so he could have the women he fornicated with (who was married).

And of course, better then believing in a prophet-god who shat and **** and was easily killed by mere men.

NOW;

Not interested in your apologetics.

What you have to say about the sons of Israel killing a whole town? What about Israelites killing whole towns at the order of god? What about Davids expeditions?

Pfft, keep your dirty nose down to bro

Your own book shows Prophets have been orderd to kill and raid.

 

[Assad91]

Yeah. Now I understand why so many picked the moderate choices. They weren't serious. That does explain much.

What?

You have access to who voted who?

 

[YmirGF]

You have access to who voted who?

To answer, I'd have to smite thee.

 

[Question_love_act]

Better then believing a Prophet banged his own daughters. O got to drunk and feel asleep naked for his sons to see.Or believe one had a man killed just so he could have the women he fornicated with (who was married).

And you didn't even begin to mention the crusades and the many crimes of the religious clergy/pastors. Christianity is no angel.

One religion simply cannot cast a stone to other just because they are, well... institutionalized by humans!

 

[YmirGF]

And you didn't even begin to mention the crusades and the many crimes of the religious clergy/pastors. Christianity is no angel.

One religion simply cannot cast a stone to other just because they are, well... institutionalized by humans!

Normally that is what you'd think, however all too many Muslims believe that Islam is the religion of GOD, so have no problem, whatsoever, casting aspersions on other religions.

 

[Question_love_act]

Normally that is what you'd think, however all too many Muslims believe that Islam is the religion of GOD, so have no problem, whatsoever, casting aspersions on other religions.

True. It happens often and even among so-called moderate religious people. But we cannot deny Christians do it too.

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Why is Christianity Right Among Other Religions? (William Lane Craig) - YouTube

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Should Christians respect other religions?? - YouTube

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

I LOVE that second video. Freaking hilarious.

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

Is the Prophet Muhammad a good man?

Well, first of all, I skimped over some threads made by some people who say that Muhammad is bad by quoting the Hadiths. The Hadiths as I've researched were written WAY after the Prophet Muhammad's death. Many of them do not portray the historical Muhammad, and also contradict the Quran. I have proof of this right here.

Quran-Islam.org - True Islam
Quran-Islam.org - True Islam

If I would you, I check out this information on the Prophet Muhammad overall.
Dated Texts Mentioning Prophet Muhammad From 1-100 AH / 622-719 CE
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Prophet Muhammad's Letter to The Emperor of Rome - YouTube
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The Holy Prophet Muhammad 's Letter to the Monks of St. Catherine in Mt. Sinai - YouTube

Now I have a neutral opinion on Prophet Muhammad. I mean, though he did marry Aisha who was a child, and other such things Christian and Western polemics like to accuse the Prophet of, I still do believe in some ways that he was indeed a good man and that we should not at all try to stand for biased polemics (both Islamic and non-Islamic).

Peace.

 

[Assad91]

Normally that is what you'd think, however all too many Muslims believe that Islam is the religion of GOD, so have no problem, whatsoever, casting aspersions on other religions.

And Christians don't? This thread is full of Christian self-righteous hypocrisy.

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

And Christians don't? This thread is full of Christian self-righteous hypocrisy.

Anyone in any religion becomes self-righteous at one point. That's why I'm an Esoteric Atheist. Meaning that I don't believe in submission because we have the divine will power within our minds to become one ourselves.

But that aside, what sect of Islam are you?

 

[Assad91]

But that aside, what sect of Islam are you?

Shia.

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

Shia.

Ever heard of Ismailism? It's almost like Sufism but in a Shia form (at least in my opinion).

 

[Assad91]

Ever heard of Ismailism? It's almost like Sufism but in a Shia form (at least in my opinion).

Of course. But I don't believe in it.

I am twelver

 

[SheikhHorusFromTheSky]

Of course. But I don't believe in it.

I am twelver

I see, man. I see. Peace.

 

[Question_love_act]

I LOVE that second video. Freaking hilarious.

Glad you liked it! Made me laugh too! The bad thing is people who don't laugh and actually believe that "religions other than the true righteous one" are going to Hell or are going to be punished.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I say he was a terrible man for helping to wreck the Pagan religions of the pre-Muslim Arabs. I condemn anyone who took part in destroying the religions of old in order to force conversion to monotheism on them.

 

[Assad91]

I say he was a terrible man for helping to wreck the Pagan religions of the pre-Muslim Arabs. I condemn anyone who took part in destroying the religions of old in order to force conversion to monotheism on them.

At least the Muslims did it without turning into semi-christians. Claiming monotheism while in reality acting like pagans by worshiping their prophet

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

At least the Muslims did it without turning into semi-christians. Claiming monotheism while in reality acting like pagans by worshiping their prophet

I don't see any difference between between the two groups, except that Islam is even more about submission than Christianity is. Both sects wrecked the ancient world and we're still trying to pick up the pieces.