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Wat makes your religion the one TRUE religion?

1AOA1

Active Member
Christians believe that the bible is the word of God, the One true God.
For Muslims it Allah alone who's the true God.
Incidentally, these two religions are the only two, that managed to go around the world and leave a trail of horrendous atrocities in the name of their religion forcing conversions on people of other faiths and destroying public properties that didn't involve their deities.

Buddhists, Hindus, pagans, Jains, shamans, aboriginals, taoists, etc have place for other religions and have hardly any laws on conversion.

So, what makes your religion the true one? Have you cross checked with the faith of other people and belief systems?

(Wars and attacks on the basis of race, ethnicity and plundering by kings to gain neighboring kingdoms do not qualify as religious wars)

If you have ten people and you define religion on the basis of hair length, you could have ten different, competing religions- 1/4" hair length religion, 1/8" hair length religion etc.

You could define it on the basis of the inclusion of Abraham in text, at which point you have two distinct competing religions since two follow the bible, three the Quran, all of whom are in the Abrahamic religion, and five follow the Vedas.

You could further divide the Abrahamics by defining on the basis of the inclusion of Abraham and on the basis of the name for God, at which point you have two distinct, competing religions in the Abrahamics as those who follow Allah and those who follow Yahweh.

You could remove it all and define on the basis of geography at which point you arrive at six different competing religions since you have five people from unique, non-Australian countries and five from Australia who are part of the Australian religion.

Before asking which is the true religion it should be determined what is the definition of religion being used.If you're a hardcore nationalist based on your own lifestyle and you put nation and nationality above all things, regardless of what those things are, you will look for texts, practices, etc that are from, based on, or within your own country.

If you put God first you look for texts, practices etc which which are, or from, God, regardless of the inclusion of Abraham in the texts, or the name for God used. So how does someone who worships God come to be compartmentalized and defined into an Abrahamic on the premier basis of the inclusion of Abraham in texts? How does a religion that is said to be a theistic God-fearing lifestyle come to be compartmentalized on the premier basis of geography such as Egyptian religion versus Jewish religion?
 

Meander_Z

Member
The idea of one true faith came about as people began to apply philosophy to their previous might makes right religious conceptions. Going back to early Hebrew and Greek warrior traditions, success in battle was not seen as a result of superior military tactics or pure chance but rather a proof of the superiority of their God/gods. Both Hebrew mysticism and Greek philosophy were major influences on the development of Christianity and the spread of monotheism. You start with the idea that there is a singular absolute truth, develop the concept of proof, and as minds become increasingly sophisticated you end up with the scientific method. In essence monotheism gave birth to atheism, yet another one true truth. I always prefer to squash the concept of absolutes and bask in wonder of paradox and multiplicity. My faith isn't the ONE true faith, it's the OTHER true faith.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Christians believe that the bible is the word of God, the One true God.
For Muslims it Allah alone who's the true God.
Incidentally, these two religions are the only two, that managed to go around the world and leave a trail of horrendous atrocities in the name of their religion forcing conversions on people of other faiths and destroying public properties that didn't involve their deities.

Buddhists, Hindus, pagans, Jains, shamans, aboriginals, taoists, etc have place for other religions and have hardly any laws on conversion.

So, what makes your religion the true one? Have you cross checked with the faith of other people and belief systems?

(Wars and attacks on the basis of race, ethnicity and plundering by kings to gain neighboring kingdoms do not qualify as religious wars)

I believe our religion saves people from sin.

I have checked every major religion and have found none other that saves anyone from sin.
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
I believe our religion saves people from sin.

I have checked every major religion and have found none other that saves anyone from sin.


This is not a troll thread, I repeat this is not a troll thread.
And no, your religion doesn't save people.
It's a false statement
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
No one is presenting better arguments. If they have better arguments, they aren't presenting them.

I guess it's because some religious rather keep an open mind to other religions truth. Which is kind of odd to me, because if I think X is the truth, and John doesn't have X, no matter what other letter he has, because X is truth, he will be disadvantaged by not having it. It's not quite "you pick your favorite color and I pick mine", it's "this is how I see reality, anything outside this reality is not true" unless one has multiple realities. Then, I wonder...o_O
 

Tomorrows_Child

Active Member
Christians believe that the bible is the word of God, the One true God.
For Muslims it Allah alone who's the true God.
Incidentally, these two religions are the only two, that managed to go around the world and leave a trail of horrendous atrocities in the name of their religion forcing conversions on people of other faiths and destroying public properties that didn't involve their deities.

Buddhists, Hindus, pagans, Jains, shamans, aboriginals, taoists, etc have place for other religions and have hardly any laws on conversion.

So, what makes your religion the true one? Have you cross checked with the faith of other people and belief systems?

(Wars and attacks on the basis of race, ethnicity and plundering by kings to gain neighboring kingdoms do not qualify as religious wars)

So you think Hindus and Buddhists etc haven't caused violence and destruction? You must be new to planet earth. Welcome, you're in for a surprise.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I have checked every major religion and have found none other that saves anyone from sin.
Pretty much most do, but how it is to be accomplished varies from religion to religion. Some require sacrifices of one type or another, for example, and some don't.
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
So you think Hindus and Buddhists etc haven't caused violence and destruction? You must be new to planet earth. Welcome, you're in for a surprise.


Awaiting data on total people killed in the name of Islam and in the name of Hinduism and in the name of Buddhism.
Though I never implied it, still no perfect way to dodge the question.
Hindu radicalism is the result of colonialism and centuries of Islamic rule and destroyed many Hindu temples.
If you torture someone for years, you can't expect him to fall on your feet with reverence.
 

Tomorrows_Child

Active Member
Awaiting data on total people killed in the name of Islam and in the name of Hinduism and in the name of Buddhism.
Though I never implied it, still no perfect way to dodge the question.
Hindu radicalism is the result of colonialism and centuries of Islamic rule and destroyed many Hindu temples.
If you torture someone for years, you can't expect him to fall on your feet with reverence.

Muslim rule of India largely led to positive change, with India becoming one of the wealthiest nations on earth. If you know your history, then you also know several ministers and governors serving under Muslim rule were Hindu or even Christian. The idea of some sort of Muslims crusade in India is a myth. I'm not saying bad things didn't happen but they are in the minority when compared to other empires. But also, a lot of that was in the pats. Let's look at the here and now?

The Indian PM is a Hindu extremist, Indian Kashmir is the single most militarised place on earth, 10s of thousands are killed on a religious basis from Kashmir to Assam to Gujara to Bengal. These murders aren't just carried out by militants or the government but by every day people in mass riots. Very nations have this level of what I call "ground level genocide".
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Christians believe that the bible is the word of God, the One true God.
For Muslims it Allah alone who's the true God.
Incidentally, these two religions are the only two, that managed to go around the world and leave a trail of horrendous atrocities in the name of their religion forcing conversions on people of other faiths and destroying public properties that didn't involve their deities.

Buddhists, Hindus, pagans, Jains, shamans, aboriginals, taoists, etc have place for other religions and have hardly any laws on conversion.

So, what makes your religion the true one? Have you cross checked with the faith of other people and belief systems?

(Wars and attacks on the basis of race, ethnicity and plundering by kings to gain neighboring kingdoms do not qualify as religious wars)

I define true religion as how I see reality; it is a fact, I can't see anything else true outside if it.

Anything can be true/reality/fact to the person who believes it. However, if each person said that one orange is blue, another, red, white, green, and so on, it doesn't make the True color of the orange the colors we see.

As a result, the True religion is those that focus on the mind. They focus on how we view things and interpret what a spirit means, a soul, and a heart. The true religion is the practice for understanding the mind's relation to the world and relieving pain from ourselves and others by showing people how to perceive it to help themselves.

True religion is about being part of one's family and ancestors. It's about continuous gratitude for where you came from, who you came from, and simply saying thank you without strings attached for being here. True religion is free from strings (anything not comparing it to organized religion).

True religion is a practice not a belief. It is something you do in order to help yourself in body, spirit, and specifically the mind. It is how we treat people and treat ourselves. What we value and acting on those values.

All of this can be summed up in many religions. However, I notice that some religions are missing one peg or two from above. Everything comes from within. That's how we perceive what color is the orange.

I just find it very broad to say everyone has their own truth when seeing different colors of the orange doesn't mean we see the right color no matter how plurist we want to be.

True religion is seeing reality. How do you see reality, my view is through the values of Buddhism. I can't find any other way to see reality as reality outside the workings of the mind. Anything I do: say practice religious witchcraft to prayer all goes back to the mind. How we perceive color. That's true religion. Anything outside of that, in my opinion, are beliefs.

There is got to be a time that you call your reality a fact. If not, whose reality are you living and is it an illusion?
 

Aiviu

Active Member
Because my religoin isnt -> Heroic pathetic brutal violent praying preaching scolding worshipiing in a self enjoying or mental suffering manner just to break their head or heart on a stone which is named contradiction.
 
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