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Wat makes your religion the one TRUE religion?

Yoshua

Well-Known Member
Christians believe that the bible is the word of God, the One true God.
For Muslims it Allah alone who's the true God.
Incidentally, these two religions are the only two, that managed to go around the world and leave a trail of horrendous atrocities in the name of their religion forcing conversions on people of other faiths and destroying public properties that didn't involve their deities.

Buddhists, Hindus, pagans, Jains, shamans, aboriginals, taoists, etc have place for other religions and have hardly any laws on conversion.

So, what makes your religion the true one? Have you cross checked with the faith of other people and belief systems?

(Wars and attacks on the basis of race, ethnicity and plundering by kings to gain neighboring kingdoms do not qualify as religious wars)
Hi Subhankar,

Yes, I already checked the other belief systems or faiths. My belief is true because there is only one who can save our sins and bring us in eternity. He once said that "He is the way, the truth and the life."

Thanks
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
Hi Subhankar,

Yes, I already checked the other belief systems or faiths. My belief is true because there is only one who can save our sins and bring us in eternity. He once said that "He is the way, the truth and the life."

Thanks


"There's no truth superior to me. Everything rests upon Me as pearls are strung on a thread"- Bhagavad Gita spoken 3000 years before Jesus was even born.
Seems like Krishna said it first
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Hi Subhankar,

Yes, I already checked the other belief systems or faiths. My belief is true because there is only one who can save our sins and bring us in eternity. He once said that "He is the way, the truth and the life."

Thanks

Can I ask? I haven't been through a lot of belief systems; so, I don't have that type of mindset. Why would you feel you needed to be saved? I know for me (and, of course just for me), living and being is "being saved." Family and communing with the Spirits is "being saved." However, no one takes away my sins or wrong doings. The consequences or blessings from my actions will befall me when the time comes.

That just makes sense to me, though. Why do you feel you need to be saved? Is it an inner feeling that...thinking of the right words... makes you feel, as one new christian and friend said, "I cant do this on my own."? Is it more loneliness (if you dont mind saying)? Also, in what way does it make sense (for lack of more nice way to say it) that you'd look outside yourself (to god) to be saved within yourself?

Why does it not make sense to you to look yourself first and only and everything else interconnected with who you are within rather than how you are defined by another?

Sorry, many questions. Your answer just made me think of these.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Reminds me of a teaching by one of the great Jewish sages, Maimonides, whereas he said that it one only does good so as they can go to heaven, then they are doing so for rather selfish reasons. Instead, he said that we should do good to others because God made us and everything else, but He didn't have to, therefore we should appreciate the life we've been given and help others to do the same.
 

Jivaatma

Servants of Maha Vishnu
Muslim rule of India largely led to positive change, with India becoming one of the wealthiest nations on earth. If you know your history, then you also know several ministers and governors serving under Muslim rule were Hindu or even Christian. The idea of some sort of Muslims crusade in India is a myth. I'm not saying bad things didn't happen but they are in the minority when compared to other empires. But also, a lot of that was in the pats. Let's look at the here and now?

The Indian PM is a Hindu extremist, Indian Kashmir is the single most militarised place on earth, 10s of thousands are killed on a religious basis from Kashmir to Assam to Gujara to Bengal. These murders aren't just carried out by militants or the government but by every day people in mass riots. Very nations have this level of what I call "ground level genocide".
I do not know who told you this but your post is rubbish.
India or Bharat was called golden bird (Sone ki chidiya in hindi) . The muslims did not invade india for fun, they did it to loot huge piles of money in Indian subcontinent. India is richest country in the world back then. Kashmira itself is a sanskrit term and it is once called Land of Saraswati devi. ..It was muslims who killed millions of hindus in Kashmir valley and converted those who are too afraid to die. Akbar, tipu sultan all are mass murderers and this is a known fact. The most evil islamic ruler of Kashmir is Sikandar Butshikan who killed thousand of vaishnavas in sri Rangam.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikandar_Butshikan

you see all kashmiri muslims now are unaware of their own hindu history..all of them have hindu ancestors

Most of the structures in India are converted to tombs. Muslims did not have technology to construct any big structure let alone taj mahal or Tejo mahalaya(mahal is not a muslim term) ...Taj mahal predates shah jahan by 500 years and in badshah nama it was clearly mentioned that the structure was there for many hundreds of years prior and it needed repairs. It was an ancient shiva temple (nagnatheswar) converted to tomb and urdu inscriptions were forcefully inscribed on them. See this

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/was_the_taj_mahal_a_vedic_temple.htm

Lastly Indian pm is not an hindu extremist, he has not even able to construct ayodya
 
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Yoshua

Well-Known Member
"There's no truth superior to me. Everything rests upon Me as pearls are strung on a thread"- Bhagavad Gita spoken 3000 years before Jesus was even born.
Seems like Krishna said it first
Hi Subhankar,

I appreciate your answer. If we based on who's the first, I think the prophecy in the Bible that a Saviour (Jesus) will be born (in the book of Isaiah) has much to do with it since the God who created the heaven and earth--is also the God of the prophet Isaiah.

Thanks
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
Hi Subhankar,

I appreciate your answer. If we based on who's the first, I think the prophecy in the Bible that a Saviour (Jesus) will be born (in the book of Isaiah) has much to do with it since the God who created the heaven and earth--is also the God of the prophet Isaiah.

Thanks


In that case, have at it! ;)
 

Yoshua

Well-Known Member
Can I ask? I haven't been through a lot of belief systems; so, I don't have that type of mindset. Why would you feel you needed to be saved? I know for me (and, of course just for me), living and being is "being saved." Family and communing with the Spirits is "being saved." However, no one takes away my sins or wrong doings. The consequences or blessings from my actions will befall me when the time comes.
Hi Carlita,

I felt the need to be saved because I have a lot of insecurities, fear, no peace and don’t know where to go before. If living as human is being saved (already), it will boils down to the question: why we are still living, and breathing? The answer is by the grace of God we are born and still living. The term “saving in eternity” is the destination of a human where he should go after life.

There’s a lot of meaning about communing with the spirits is considered being saved. For Christians, it is communing with the Holy Spirit. Salvation is not initially the communing with the Holy Spirit. It is by acceptance of the offer of Christ to come to Him and follow His word.
That just makes sense to me, though. Why do you feel you need to be saved? Is it an inner feeling that...thinking of the right words... makes you feel, as one new christian and friend said, "I cant do this on my own."? Is it more loneliness (if you dont mind saying)? Also, in what way does it make sense (for lack of more nice way to say it) that you'd look outside yourself (to god) to be saved within yourself?
Another thing we know that we need to be saved because Jesus said so.
Why does it not make sense to you to look yourself first and only and everything else interconnected with who you are within rather than how you are defined by another?

Sorry, many questions. Your answer just made me think of these.
Looking ourselves is to know what we are as human. Are we born perfect and can do what we like to do? God is perfect therefore we need God to attain perfection in righteousness.

Thanks
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
Another thing we know that we need to be saved because Jesus said so.

Looking ourselves is to know what we are as human. Are we born perfect and can do what we like to do? God is perfect therefore we need God to attain perfection in righteousness.

Thanks


Saving from what?
Why should I need to be saved?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Thank you. I very much appreciate you taking the time answering these questions. We have completely different mindsets. ;)

I understand about the insecurities...and as long as god is holding you at heart, I feel you'll be fine. I found for myself that to know the nature of myself as a human being is the same as interconnecting with the Spirits. It's like you know yourself more than your (people in general) insecurities etc start to wash away because you can handle life stress better. All because of looking at who you are (in god, for example), or examples from my family, or taken care of literally by the Spirits, and so forth. It's beautiful to really know yourself.

I can't imagine taking my attention outside of myself to another. Everything about me comes from another, like my ancestors. Whats the best way to know them is through my family and through me?

That's my train of thought (and sorry, testimony).

Hi Carlita,

I felt the need to be saved because I have a lot of insecurities, fear, no peace and don’t know where to go before. If living as human is being saved (already), it will boils down to the question: why we are still living, and breathing? The answer is by the grace of God we are born and still living. The term “saving in eternity” is the destination of a human where he should go after life.

There’s a lot of meaning about communing with the spirits is considered being saved. For Christians, it is communing with the Holy Spirit. Salvation is not initially the communing with the Holy Spirit. It is by acceptance of the offer of Christ to come to Him and follow His word.

Another thing we know that we need to be saved because Jesus said so.

Looking ourselves is to know what we are as human. Are we born perfect and can do what we like to do? God is perfect therefore we need God to attain perfection in righteousness.

Thanks

When I practiced Christianity, I looked at it like this. I am not perfect; and I am a child of god just as Jesus and every other person. Knowing that, makes me perfect. It lets me know that I am human (like Jesus was) and I am a child of god (like Jesus), and I died in Him (like Peter), and resurrected in him. Basically, when you go to Mass you come to communion with the Church (the Body of Christ not organization). You are blessed by god and you go through the full passion. Then you confess your sins and take the Eucharist (the food and spirit of Jesus) and you just died in him and resurrected in him.

All in him as spirit. Spirits collectively meaning all souls of every living being, plant, and animal. All of life.

That didn't fly with the Church :confused: but I'll leave it with Galations 2:20

Thank you
 

Yoshua

Well-Known Member
Saving from what?
Why should I need to be saved?
Hi Subhankar,

Saving us from the penalty of sin.

Let me quote the scripture:
Heb. 9:28
28. so also Christ died only once as an offering for the sins of many people; and he will come again, but not to deal again with our sins.This time he will come bringing salvation to all those who are eagerly and patiently waiting for him.

Rom. 5:7-8
8. But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.

Thanks
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
Hi Subhankar,

Saving us from the penalty of sin.

Let me quote the scripture:
Heb. 9:28
28. so also Christ died only once as an offering for the sins of many people; and he will come again, but not to deal again with our sins.This time he will come bringing salvation to all those who are eagerly and patiently waiting for him.

Rom. 5:7-8
8. But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.

Thanks


Mention the list of sins that I've committed please?
You can put it serial wise down. :)
 

Aiviu

Active Member
Hi Subhankar,

Saving us from the penalty of sin.

Let me quote the scripture:
Heb. 9:28
28. so also Christ died only once as an offering for the sins of many people; and he will come again, but not to deal again with our sins.This time he will come bringing salvation to all those who are eagerly and patiently waiting for him.

Rom. 5:7-8
8. But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.

Thanks

additionally: It says its prophecied that we all will sin as soon as we are old enough. The time he will come it will be for the person himself not externally. This is a single lifetime prophecy.

Mention the list of sins that I've committed please?
You can put it serial wise down. :)

A sin attaches something to the world which origins are not of this world.
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
additionally: It says its prophecied that we all will sin as soon as we are old enough. The time he will come it will be for the person himself not externally. This is a single lifetime prophecy.



A sin attaches something to the world which origins are not of this world.


I see it as words of a man who couldn't even save himself, couldn't bring real change but is seeking attention

Still no list... I need the whole list. ;)
 

Aiviu

Active Member
I see it as words of a man who couldn't even save himself, couldn't bring real change but is seeking attention

Still no list... I need the whole list. ;)

You cant save yourself. I dont seek attention in what doesnt stands in front of me.
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
You cant save yourself. I dont seek attention in what doesnt stands in front of me.


Yeah, I don't have time for Jehovah's witnesses and Krishna already saved me. :)
The supreme of all supreme... 3000-5000 years older to Christ.
N I was talking about your deity, not you.
 

Aiviu

Active Member
Yeah, I don't have time for Jehovah's witnesses and Krishna already saved me. :)
The supreme of all supreme... 3000-5000 years older to Christ.
N I was talking about your deity, not you.

;) ... the creme de la creme. I post for you to understand and not to say my deity isnt your deity.
 

Mackerni

Libertarian Unitarian
So, what makes your religion the true one? Have you cross checked with the faith of other people and belief systems?

Answering just this brief question, I would say that as an directed omnist I stress over certain things more than others, and even yet, I would say that my faith is certainly applicable within the processes of our universe as such: divine selection, pantheosis, sun worship, technological reverence, and formidable doubts that lie in everything Terasem, Unitarian, and Exaltist based, but as well, a general sense of Omnism would lead one to believe that any faith can be correct under any given paradigm. I'm not a general Omnist, nor do I live my life in complete subjective relativity; despite my faith being that of my own. There are over 200,000 Unitarians, over 32,000 Terasem joiners, and certainly other philosophies that encapsulate Exaltism. It's about finding similarities despite our differences. The space between our religions and faiths are just that, space. There is no right way to pray, no right way to revere or to worship. Our religion is just that, religion. As a member of an autonomous religion, I realize that.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I do not have a religion and I do not know that what I believe is true. Popular opinion says it isn't true. I am not going to bet on who is right.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Just two quick points, with the first being that Isaiah does not have anything directly to say about Jesus as it deals with events that took place five centuries previous. If one reads Isaiah in the context of the Babylonian Exile, that picture becomes much more clear, especially since the major theme of the book deals with the Law and how important it is for Jews to continue to follow it (all 613 of them as found in Torah).

Secondly, the concept of Jesus dying for one's sins is a theological construct that doesn't make sense if taken at the literal level but came make sense if looked at in a more symbolic manner. I can explain if needed.
 
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