Wat makes your religion the one TRUE religion?

[Subhankar Zac]

Muslim rule of India largely led to positive change, with India becoming one of the wealthiest nations on earth. If you know your history, then you also know several ministers and governors serving under Muslim rule were Hindu or even Christian. The idea of some sort of Muslims crusade in India is a myth. I'm not saying bad things didn't happen but they are in the minority when compared to other empires. But also, a lot of that was in the pats. Let's look at the here and now?

The Indian PM is a Hindu extremist, Indian Kashmir is the single most militarised place on earth, 10s of thousands are killed on a religious basis from Kashmir to Assam to Gujara to Bengal. These murders aren't just carried out by militants or the government but by every day people in mass riots. Very nations have this level of what I call "ground level genocide".

Yes, since Muhammad believed positive change to be genocide, I expect his folowrrs to have the same view.
Famines caused by the making of the Taj Mahal in many regions of Uttar Pradesh is well documented.
Then chopping off the arms of 22,000 people who constructed that tomb on a Shiva temple that they destroyed, was positive.
Forcing people to pay taxes, forced conversions, murder of two Sikh gurus making Sikhism a military field religion, raping girls in Punjab region before the Sikh young army stopped those men.
Very very positive indeed.
Yes, making the already divisive caste gap bigger by promoting more division, they also converted many low caste Hindus which I've nothing against.
Myth huh?

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.co...on-of-india-the-greatest-genocide-in-history/


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus

DAMN these myths!
Okay... Islamic groups attacking India repeatedly wanting to put Kashmir in Pakistan.
Mujahadeen groups are rife all over India.
Conditions of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh will bring anyone to the truth but no point in giving you everything and shoving proof right infront of your eyes of you're going to put it aside.

Though you're right. The indian pm is an Hindu extremist for condemning attacks on churches and mosques.
The indian pm is a Hindu terrorist for letting Muslims live in India opposite to how Islamic nations let Hindus live there.
The indian pm is the worst person on the planet for eating five kilograms of beef per week!
I've lived in Assam for many years and I m a Bengali. The riots are caused by the Communist governments that are followed by Muslims attacking Hindus.

Waiting For you to deny them all.

 

[First Baseman]

The fact that Jesus Christ is alive. That says it all right there.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

The fact that Jesus Christ is alive. That says it all right there.

So is Krishna, Shiva, Zeus, Gautama Buddha, Rama, Vishnu.

"There's no truth superior to me. All things rest upon me as pearls are strung on a thread.
I m taste of water, the light ofthe Sun and the moon.
The syllable OM in the Vedic mantras
I m the sound in the air and the ability in man
I m the original fragrance of the earth. I m the heat in the fire.
I m the lives of all that lives and the penance of all aesthetics.
Know that I m the original seed of all existence, the intelligence of the intelligent.
The prowess of all powerful men
I m strength of the strong, devoid of passion. I m sex life which is not contradictory to religious principles.
Know that all beings, whether in the mode of goodness, passion or ignorance are manifested by my energy alone."
-Bhagavad Gita chapter 7

 

[First Baseman]

So is Krishna, Shiva, Zeus, Gautama Buddha, Rama, Vishnu.

"There's no truth superior to me. All things rest upon me as pearls are strung on a thread.
I m taste of water, the light ofthe Sun and the moon.
The syllable OM in the Vedic mantras
I m the sound in the air and the ability in man
I m the original fragrance of the earth. I m the heat in the fire.
I m the lives of all that lives and the penance of all aesthetics.
Know that I m the original seed of all existence, the intelligence of the intelligent.
The prowess of all powerful men
I m strength of the strong, devoid of passion. I m sex life which is not contradictory to religious principles.
Know that all beings, whether in the mode of goodness, passion or ignorance are manifested by my energy alone."
-Bhagavad Gita chapter 7

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.

Still didn't say, he's the creator all things in the universe.

“Arjuna saw in that universal form unlimited mouths, unlimited eyes, unlimited wonderful visions. The form was decorated with many celestial ornaments and bore many diving upraised weapons. He wore celestial garlands and garments, and many divine scents were smeared over his body. All was wondrous, brilliant, unlimited, all expanding. If hundreds of thousands of suns were to rise at once into the sky, their radiance might resemble the effulgence of the supreme person in that universal form.”(Bhagavad-Gita 11.10-12)



Wants salvation without evidence. Where's your deity's universal form?
No proof of vision of the cosmic form by any prophet?

“The whole cosmic order is under me. By my will it is manifested again and again, and by my will it is annihilated at the end” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita 9.8)

 

[atanu]

Muslim rule of India largely led to positive change, with India becoming one of the wealthiest nations on earth. If you know your history, then you also know several ministers and governors serving under Muslim rule were Hindu or even Christian. The idea of some sort of Muslims crusade in India is a myth. I'm not saying bad things didn't happen but they are in the minority when compared to other empires. But also, a lot of that was in the pats. Let's look at the here and now?

The Indian PM is a Hindu extremist, Indian Kashmir is the single most militarised place on earth, 10s of thousands are killed on a religious basis from Kashmir to Assam to Gujara to Bengal. These murders aren't just carried out by militants or the government but by every day people in mass riots. Very nations have this level of what I call "ground level genocide".

That is lie.

 

[atanu]

I have studied scripture of all major religions and found the same truth spoken--the truth of non dual all pervading awareness of "I am", verbalised in different ways. This awareness alone is the seer-knower in all bodies. Quran repeats this very very often -Allah is the Seer-knower of all. The Bible names it "I am that I am" and the Vedas name it 'Om'. No one can ever deny the self awareness of existence. This is the timeless Truth.

For egotists, who mistake the body for self, however, the all pervading non dual Spirit is an unknown entity. And with this ignorance, these minds unleash mental, verbal, and physical violence on so-called others. They imagine superiority of their ego concept and unleash violence upon each other.

The transient ego concepts are all thoughts. The source of the concepts is True.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

So, what makes your religion the true one? Have you cross checked with the faith of other people and belief systems?

I examined the claims of the "invented" or founded religions - Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc - and found that they were just that: claims.

Did Jesus come back to life? The people who were personally acquainted with his disciples (i.e. Mark and Paul) simply report that his tomb was found to be empty. How did they know that no-one had just stolen the body? And can I believe in a creator who hands out eternal punishment for the errors of a short lifetime?

Did Muhammad get a message from God? If he did, it was sadly garbled in transmission. And if the creator wanted to send a message to mankind, why not pick a messenger living in a civilised area and speaking a well-known language?

Was the Buddha really more enlightened than I? If human life is frustrating, then why not strive to improve it, rather than running away to hide in a monastery?

The true religion is obviously the one which acknowledges the reality of the divine and human religious experience, without accepting the unsubstantiated or improbable claims of any one person or small group: paganism.

 

[Muffled]

What you believe does not concern me. Apologies for sternness.

I believe there is a time and place for everything but i didn't detect sternness only disinterest. I assure you that God takes a personal interest in you whether you want to ignore Him or not.

 

[Muffled]

Pretty much most do, but how it is to be accomplished varies from religion to religion. Some require sacrifices of one type or another, for example, and some don't.

I believe that is not the case. The person must save himself through those religions and all the religions do is show the person what to do. In my religion Jesus works in me to do God's will so I never need to save myself; my religion does it for me.

 

[Muffled]

I examined the claims of the "invented" or founded religions - Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc - and found that they were just that: claims.

Did Jesus come back to life? The people who were personally acquainted with his disciples (i.e. Mark and Paul) simply report that his tomb was found to be empty. How did they know that no-one had just stolen the body? And can I believe in a creator who hands out eternal punishment for the errors of a short lifetime?

Did Muhammad get a message from God? If he did, it was sadly garbled in transmission. And if the creator wanted to send a message to mankind, why not pick a messenger living in a civilised area and speaking a well-known language?

Was the Buddha really more enlightened than I? If human life is frustrating, then why not strive to improve it, rather than running away to hide in a monastery?

The true religion is obviously the one which acknowledges the reality of the divine and human religious experience, without accepting the unsubstantiated or improbable claims of any one person or small group: paganism.

I believe so and there were eyewitness reports of the risen Jesus.

A logical deduction would be that they heard it from eyewitnesses.

I don't believe there is any need to do so since I believe in re-incarnation so that there are a multitude of lifetimes before the final judgement.

I believe he did.

I believe the message was for Arabs who wouldn't be reached by Christians for centuries and even then Arabs appear to be almost as stubborn as Jews.

I believe he was an illuminati but that does not equate to the truth. He knew more than most of us.

I believe one has to validate one's sources. My source is true and keeps on validating Himself.

 

[metis]

I believe that is not the case. The person must save himself through those religions and all the religions do is show the person what to do. In my religion Jesus works in me to do God's will so I never need to save myself; my religion does it for me.

That's not actually what the Christian scriptures say. Read Matthew 25 over again c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y and note what the difference is between the "sheep" and the "goats". Read the Parable of the Seed and the Sower and note the differences with the "seeds". Read Paul's saying there's "faith, hope, and love", and which does he say is the greatest? [in Koine Greek, "agape" is an active noun, namely that one doesn't just have agape, one lives agape] Read Jesus' Sermon On the Mount, whereas he teaches his followers what they should do.

It is actually made quite clear in the scriptures that just having a politically-correct belief is going to "save" anyone-- just ask the "goats".

 

[metis]

I have checked every major religion and have found none other that saves anyone from sin.

Just a reminder that this is actually what you posted, and it's clearly not true as many religions do have provisions for forgiveness from God. You cite mere p.c. belief as your one and only provision but most others go beyond that.

 

[Meander_Z]

Did Jesus come back to life? The people who were personally acquainted with his disciples (i.e. Mark and Paul) simply report that his tomb was found to be empty. How did they know that no-one had just stolen the body? And can I believe in a creator who hands out eternal punishment for the errors of a short lifetime?

Did Muhammad get a message from God? If he did, it was sadly garbled in transmission. And if the creator wanted to send a message to mankind, why not pick a messenger living in a civilised area and speaking a well-known language?

Was the Buddha really more enlightened than I? If human life is frustrating, then why not strive to improve it, rather than running away to hide in a monastery?

The true religion is obviously the one which acknowledges the reality of the divine and human religious experience, without accepting the unsubstantiated or improbable claims of any one person or small group: paganism.

I think it's important to take all religious epiphany within the context of the culture and beliefs of their time. Just because the lessons received seem dated to our modern sensibilities doesn't mean that they were/are without value. Buddha did not simply run away and hide in a monastery. He challenged the existing social structure in India, in a way that impacted an entire continent. He learned something and then passed his learning on to others. Same with Mohammad and Jesus. These aren't names that were randomly assigned as enlightened souls/prophets/teachers. These were all people that brought something new to the world, overturned established assumptions and gave people new opportunities for self examination and communion with God.

You don't have to believe in a creator who hands out eternal punishment. Instead you could examine how that idea of God developed over time, and ask why those ideas still have such a strong hold on people today. Then maybe spend some time chatting with God about your understanding and pass along whatever you discover in the process. How else will we discover the new epiphany that applies specifically to our modern culture?

 

[rusra02]

I can understand why the conduct of professed "Christians" would cause some to reject or question the Christian faith. Jesus Christ warned that many would use his name, claiming to be his followers, but whom he rejects, calling them "workers of lawlessness". (Matthew 7:21-23) True religion must be based on knowing the true God and his purposes. I believe Jehovah is the only God who has proven his Godship by foretelling the future and bringing to reality what he has foretold. Since he created all things, he alone is worthy of our worship, IMO.

 

[psychoslice]

My religion is my own religion, its true to me only, I dont need anyone else's approval.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

sorry to be a pooper, but good deeds are just as important as loving God. I'd say, you'll be a geography teacher in your next life

But I was a primary school teacher in THIS life (for a while).
So am I moving forwards, backwards or treading water??

Oh well...long as I don't come back a politician I guess.

 

[1AOA1]

Just because the lessons received seem dated to our modern sensibilities

Materialistic sensibilities, rather. You can live in modern times and still grow in Christ. A definition of theistic religion based on antiquity would be misplaced.

So is Krishna, Shiva, Zeus, Gautama Buddha, Rama, Vishnu.

Multiplicity would be established by the unique names listed here if the definition of theistic religion being used was based on the name used, rather than something else such as the text's relationship to God.

 

[1AOA1]

The same materialistic editorials that bring you notions like "the bible contains massive contradictions" or "the gospels are made up" also bring you the notion that "you have to choose the right god between Zeus and Yahweh" and other commentary that create the prejudice carried into a text you may have otherwise viewed from a neutral, or spiritual, standpoint and accepted its appearance from that new perspective.

 

[Terese]

But I was a primary school teacher in THIS life (for a while).
So am I moving forwards, backwards or treading water??

Oh well...long as I don't come back a politician I guess.

We're all moving forward. In every life we learn something.