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Watchtower Governing Body: Are They The Exclusive Channel For God??

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djhwoodwerks

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kjw47 said:
God views them as an enemy, but he still loves them and desires for them to come to their senses.
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Nice save! We know God loves them. But Jesus told us,

Luke 6:27-28 (ESVST) 27 " But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you.

Luk 6:32-34 (ESVST) 32 " If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount.

Wait a minute! Is this one of those teachings that Jesus only meant for His early followers? You see, I get confused with the difference. When He told His apostles to preach the kingdom to the whole earth, that was for everyone too, even though He was talking to just them. But when He was talking to just them about the New Covenant, He was just talking to them and not everybody. It's hard to keep track of when He means everyone and when He means only the apostles.
 
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djhwoodwerks

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kjw47 said:
it was error not lies

error = not knowing the difference of what is taught

lie = knowing for sure it is not true.

yes the GB were confused not God--it was not yet the proper time for certain truths to be known.
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When the GB gets the new light of "TRUTH", doesn't that make the old light of "TRUTH" false? What is the opposite of "TRUTH"?
 
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djhwoodwerks

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kjw47 said:
except the end has not come yet, so you are in error.
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How am I in error? I quoted the "BIBLE"! If I'm in error then the Bible is false because Paul said,

Col 1:23 (ESVST) , not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, "WHICH HAS BEEN" proclaimed in "ALL" creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.
 
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Wharton

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kjw47 said:
it was error not lies

error = not knowing the difference of what is taught

lie = knowing for sure it is not true.

yes the GB were confused not God--it was not yet the proper time for certain truths to be known.
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Ah, yes.

The words of JW Jesus: " I am the Way, the TRUTHS and the Life.

Not much to hang your hat on, huh, since there is only one TRUTH and you have multiple truths.
 
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djhwoodwerks

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kjw47 said:
Do you believe these are the last days? Well then according to Daniel 12:4, certain truths were hidden, means not one knew them until revealed at the proper time here in these last days. maybe you can share some of these truths your teachers have revealed? and the corrections they have made to the error they were teaching on those hidden truths they did not know until it was the proper time.
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One of the teachers I listen to is Dr. Tony Evans. I have listened to him for 20 years and he expounds on his teachings, they never completely change like the imperfect GB. I listen to teachers that have studied the ancient languages, that have studied the original writings, that have studied the Bible, that have studied other teachers. I don't listen to anyone that claims to be the "ONLY" channel of God and makes "ERRORS" in teaching.
I know you are trained not to think for yourself, and that you have to rely on the GB to let you know what to think and say and do, but with the little brain power you have left, please think about this. How does this "REALLY" sound,

The GB claim to be the FDS that Jesus appointed. They claim to be the "ONLY" organization on earth to be directed by the Holy Spirit. They claim to be God's "ONLY" channel between Him and the people of earth. They claim that there is no salvation outside the organization. But, we are imperfect men, we make mistakes, we will at times not understand what God says to us. You have to listen to and do everything we say, even though we ourselves won't know if what we are teaching is in error until God gives us "NEW LIGHT"! I'm thinking that's how you believe God really works.
 
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Wharton

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JFish123 said:
He said to them, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."
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Ah, yes. You can 'break' the Law, if you are going to suffer a financial loss. Funny stuff, the Law.
 
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JFish123

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kjw47 said:
back in Jesus day--they did not fight back--they put their trust in God to get vengeance.
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So you'd only help someone getting raped only if they were right in front of you. I didn't know there was a distance measurement on helping others, my bad.
 
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kjw47

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james2ko said:
Who is suppose to be the one with the answer?
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djhwoodwerks said:
How am I in error? I quoted the "BIBLE"! If I'm in error then the Bible is false because Paul said,

Col 1:23 (ESVST) , not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, "WHICH HAS BEEN" proclaimed in "ALL" creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.
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you have no idea obviously--because the same bible you just quoted says when the good news of Gods kingdom is preached worldwide, then the end will come--it hasn't yet.
I would say Paul was referring to the good news of Jesus.
 
kjw47

kjw47

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Wharton said:
Ah, yes.

The words of JW Jesus: " I am the Way, the TRUTHS and the Life.

Not much to hang your hat on, huh, since there is only one TRUTH and you have multiple truths.
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Well then in your teachers perfection, how did they know these truths before the last days( Daniel 12:4)--Gods word says they were hidden until these last days--the wise teachers being lead by Jesus have made corrections to the errors they taught because they did not know those truths until the proper time here in these last days--The whole Christian world would see the corrections being made, because out of the ridiculing hearts those would laugh at it in their darkness.
 
kjw47

kjw47

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djhwoodwerks said:
One of the teachers I listen to is Dr. Tony Evans. I have listened to him for 20 years and he expounds on his teachings, they never completely change like the imperfect GB. I listen to teachers that have studied the ancient languages, that have studied the original writings, that have studied the Bible, that have studied other teachers. I don't listen to anyone that claims to be the "ONLY" channel of God and makes "ERRORS" in teaching.
I know you are trained not to think for yourself, and that you have to rely on the GB to let you know what to think and say and do, but with the little brain power you have left, please think about this. How does this "REALLY" sound,

The GB claim to be the FDS that Jesus appointed. They claim to be the "ONLY" organization on earth to be directed by the Holy Spirit. They claim to be God's "ONLY" channel between Him and the people of earth. They claim that there is no salvation outside the organization. But, we are imperfect men, we make mistakes, we will at times not understand what God says to us. You have to listen to and do everything we say, even though we ourselves won't know if what we are teaching is in error until God gives us "NEW LIGHT"! I'm thinking that's how you believe God really works.
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you haven't listened to anyone who have read the original writings--they have been gone for centuries.
I know 100% for sure the GB are the faithful and discreet slave. Your words will never change that because I know for sure.
 
kjw47

kjw47

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JFish123 said:
So you'd only help someone getting raped only if they were right in front of you. I didn't know there was a distance measurement on helping others, my bad.
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vengeance is mine said the Lord. These are the men who tell you this, that and the other thing is occurring( 2Peter 2:19)--you have 0 clue if its truth. depravity = corruption. These are the men who tell you its ok to go kill your brothers. God gave them life, God created them. These are the men many send their sons and daughters to kill for-- but when this occurs-Rev 16, Rev 19:17-19-- every kingdom( govt,armies,supporters) will be mislead to stand in opposition to gods king--as well they are being mislead to do that now as well.
Satan offered to Jesus for 1 act of worship--every kingdom on earth--How--because he is in control of everyone of them.
 
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