Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
That's not the impression I got.
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We need to have an honest discussion about race in America
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Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
Why do people suffering from oppression have to make it always so political.
Why can't they accept a status quo that exists to their detriment and shut up about it?
Such a mystery...
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
The KKK, infamous for only ever looking at people badly, and not doing anything about it.
Do you actually believe that?
Hermit Philosopher
Selflessly here for you
My ears are large; almost all my relatives have large ears and I’ve heard that’s been the case historically too. Also, we all have very straight teeth, we’re good with money and the men in our bloodline tend to go bald with age. I’m not sure what my race is called and I think that is because no one has told me.
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
Makes sense, British bigotry is largely built on ethnicity, class and country of origin, not skin color specifically.
Hermit Philosopher
Selflessly here for you
@We Never Know, I can honestly say that I think that only someone who have never really not been free would express themselves like this.
Humbly
Hermit
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
The problem with justifying the existence of white supremacy in a community that values freedom by invoking that value of freedom is that its like defecating on the plate you eat from.
In a free community people have a right to voice their beliefs about even things like white supremacy, but that belief must ultimately be criticized and ostracized lest it take hold and negate the rights of others.
Be a Klansman, but don't expect respect by people that actually value the American ethos of liberty and justice for all (despite the historically cruddy practical application of it).
There are also lots of physical traits associated with ancestry they do not share.
Science, biology, and genetics don't always make up the rules when it comes to language used in real world situations
No. What brought you to that conclusion?
Hermit Philosopher
Selflessly here for you
Are their rights different though? Or, maybe on paper, they’re the same but in practice the Doberman truly isn’t welcome in certain parts of the city where the German Shepard rules…?
Sounds like your wife's family is biracial. Your example does not refute my point.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Have you taken a DNA test to find where your ancestors come from? There might have been people from different parts of the world in your own heritage.
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
But by that same argument, we cannot claim that the language we use here has any basis in science, biology, or genetics (and we know for a fact that any talk about "races" doesn't). You wanted to have an honest debate about race; part of that honesty is acknowledging that the topic under discussion is largely one of politics, prejudice, and ingrained cultural habits.
Literally every single person in America, no matter their skin color, is of African ancestry, and shares physical traits with their African ancestors. Your original definition masks the cultural and political purpose behind racial categories: They exist in order to separate people into specific groups, social shorthands, based on nothing but physical appearance and widely-held prejudice regarding the traits such an appearance might inform. Race is, therefore, an intrinsically political category, informed primarily by political tradition and cultural habit.
I said SPECIFIC differences of physical traits; not all differences.
What do rights have to do with any of this?
I don't need to take a DNA test to know there are a plethora of different races in my heritage.
Hermit Philosopher
Selflessly here for you
Trust me, our ears are pretty specifically different to other people’s - especially once we’ve gone bald; then we may even be talking a whole different species different!
Aštra’el
Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
America is not racist, it is well past that. Everyone can do well for themselves no matter what their race, if they are responsible and hard working.
There are however certain groups of people who will obsessively look for every possible way to interpret everything around them as “racist”. Their delusions are fueled by their ideology but most of all by their favorite media and politicians who keep the idea of racism fresh in their minds for their own personal gain.
There are however certain groups of people who will obsessively look for every possible way to interpret everything around them as “racist”. Their delusions are fueled by their ideology but most of all by their favorite media and politicians who keep the idea of racism fresh in their minds for their own personal gain.
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