Little Dragon
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What are Hamas' leaders thinking?
- Thread starter icehorse
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Little Dragon
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Hatred for jewish israelis certainly.
Little Dragon
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Wonderful! Me neither. We have something in common.
Of course....by those who side with Israel's terrorist
& other brutal acts, eg, mass punishment, torture.
Hamas has power because of Israeli oppression
of Palestinians. Right or wrong, one reaps what
one sows. The many innocent Palestinians they
kill in Gaza will only inflame Israel's foes. The
cycle continues.
Hating israel is not hating Jews. That blanket assumption is for the little minds.
Apparently you approve of hate crimes.
Orbit
I'm a planet
My claim is based on the history of negotiations between the two. Specifically, I refer to the Palestine Papers, which is a collection of diplomatic communications between the US, Palestinian, and Israeli officials, where Israel rejected a two-state solution. Rejecting a two-state solution is the same thing as saying there shouldn't be a Palestinian state, so while my wording was terse, it was accurate. At other points in negotiations historically, Palestine has also rejected a two-state solution, at different times. That is why I said what I said.
Tough to approve or take up a side
agreed. No oppression or pursuit of the mount and no hamas.
That sounds almost biblical
So sad but true.
I take everyone's side in this matter.
All deserve peace & prosperity....ie, the side I take....with loathing many.
In a former life, I was a fire & damnation preacher.
You show an open mind to causes upon observing the affects.
I agree and see the point
I was too.
Peace to you and dont allow the beast to come back.
Mmmmff whuhhh?
Orbit
I'm a planet
I'm not quite sure why you're giving me the link. I read the diplomatic cables that were part of the Palestine Papers quite a while ago, when they were first released.
There also this issue, which needs to be taken into account: Israel's borders explained in maps
And there are even more issues; I looked into it quite a while back. I think the situation is tragic, but after looking at the evidence, I can't find Israel to be historically blameless in these events.
I understand that emotions are running high right now, and that there are terrible things going on. I made it very clear that I condemn all terrorist attacks but I think cooler heads need to prevail right now if there is to be hope of ANY solution to this intractable mess.
Clizby Wampuscat
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My question to you is how does Israel negotiate with a group that has a stated stance that Israel has no right to exist in the region? It also states armed resistance is a must until the land is restored to them. It states this in the 2017 Hamas charter.
I think they would be sipping tea in Qatar enjoying the carnage murder and suffering and killing of any possible peace deal which was their goal,kind of similar to ww1 generals,in the rear with the gear.
Colt
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Not the anti Jewish ones.
Al qaasam martyrs brigade is the military wing of Hamas so one of the factors.
Think your memory is indeed mistaken LOL
Seems to me you were the one got Triggered upon learning the Blue rope a dope trope was propaganda .. I was just trying to tell you the facts .. Azov Nazi's in the pride-land .. that kind of thing. Did you not see the Canadian Prime Minister honoring Nazi in Parliament ..Now .. Russia's occupation of Ukraine was illegal .. what part did you not understand "Illegal" = Bad = Verbotten .. who is defending what here .. and who is peddling the propaganda El Ruski ?! .. in a "Fevered Sweat" !
We Never Know
No Slack
BLM group is losing supporters over this. IMO a bad PR move.
In a statement posted on social media, the BLM Grassroots chapter responded to the ongoing fighting between Hamas militants and Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) saying, "As the world is faced with deep questions about self-determination, as well all desire and pray for a world of peace, we must stand unwaveringly on the side of the oppressed. When a people have been subject to decades of apartheid and unimaginable violence, their resistance must not be condemned, but understood as a desperate act of self-defense."
"Black Lives Matter Grassroots stands in solidarity with our Palestinian family who are currently resisting 57 years of settler colonialism and apartheid. As Black people continue the fight to end militarism and mass incarcerations in our own communities, let us understand the resistance in Palestine as an attempt to tear down the gates of the world's biggest open air prison," the statement said. "As a radical Black organization grounded in abolitionist ideals, we see clear parallels between Black and Palestinian people."
www.newsweek.com
Black Lives Matter Org Praises Hamas, Sparks Backlash
In a statement posted on social media, the BLM Grassroots chapter responded to the ongoing fighting between Hamas militants and Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) saying, "As the world is faced with deep questions about self-determination, as well all desire and pray for a world of peace, we must stand unwaveringly on the side of the oppressed. When a people have been subject to decades of apartheid and unimaginable violence, their resistance must not be condemned, but understood as a desperate act of self-defense."
"Black Lives Matter Grassroots stands in solidarity with our Palestinian family who are currently resisting 57 years of settler colonialism and apartheid. As Black people continue the fight to end militarism and mass incarcerations in our own communities, let us understand the resistance in Palestine as an attempt to tear down the gates of the world's biggest open air prison," the statement said. "As a radical Black organization grounded in abolitionist ideals, we see clear parallels between Black and Palestinian people."
Black Lives Matter org praises Hamas, sparks backlash
"As a radical Black organization grounded in abolitionist ideals, we see clear parallels between Black and Palestinian people," the BLM Grassroots chapter said.
www.newsweek.com