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What are the Odds there's a God?

Charity

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
10/10...........I would bet my life on it......;).........if I were gambling I would say the cards are in my favor.....:angel2:
 
darkendless

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
jesusoneway said:
I would have to say 10/10 because of experiences i have had as well as simply looking at the world and everything around us and the complexity of it. I see no room to say there isn't a God!
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You should have stopped after the first part my friend.

I find it frustrating when people who obviously do not understand what it took for the world to become what it is, nor the science explaining this process, give God credit he doesn't deserve.
 
FFH

FFH

Veteran Member
darkendless said:
You should have stopped after the first part my friend.

I find it frustrating when people who obviously do not understand what it took for the world to become what it is, nor the science explaining this process, give God credit he doesn't deserve.
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I wasn't aware of any scientic observations showing DNA creating itself.
 
darkendless

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
FFH said:
I wasn't aware of any scientic observations showing DNA creating itself.
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So obviously God did it right? Weak.

Funnily enough half the stuff i learn at uni is almost unobservable, so God did that too right?

Haha wow, it is strange why they don't get a local priest to come teach me University dynamics :rolleyes:
 
SpiritualBeing

SpiritualBeing

Active Member
eugenius said:
That's BS

We know our brain and heart exists because:

A: It is needed to survive and we know this to be true through science
B: Science has developed X-ray machines to that we can actually see our brain to prove it's existence.

As for the pregnancy, most people don't know, or those that do have missed their menstral cycle or have felt a body change. It's not god, those are bad examples you provided.
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Okay, then who was it that spurred the creative mind into creating the x-ray machine? How does a zygote know how fast to develop, and what parts to grow? How does a sperm know what to do when it enters the vagina?

The question I now put to you is, how do the things that seem to just 'get on with things' know what to do? Do they have some sort of conciousness, and if so, then who gave them it?

How does a seed know when to grow and when not to? A seed, when planted, is sprung into life shortly after germination. How is this so? Where does it get that life.

Now, I know that these questions are very difficult to answer, but I believe that, in the same sense that there is a near enough 8/10 chance that seed will grow to become a flower, that there must be a damn good chance that God does exist.

I believe that, whether you believe in God or not, we all draw from a life giving source. How do we live? Why do we not just keel over and die right now (God forbid)?

:candle:
 
logician

logician

Well-Known Member
For a god believer, the probability is 1, for an atheist, the probability is 0, for an agnostic, the probability is unknown.
 
FFH

FFH

Veteran Member
10 out a 10 odds the earth and everything in it didn't create itself.

Show me the proof otherwise, there is none.

The Lord is our Creator, Redeemer and Savior.
 
Comicaze247

Comicaze247

See the previous line
Sunstone said:
If you were asked to describe your belief or disbelief in god in terms of odds, what odds would you ascribe to the possibility that god exists? One out of ten? Two out of ten? Something else?

Why did you estimate the odds as you did?
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I'd say 50/50. Either there is one, or there isn't one. But even in that 50% that would be that there is one, I think it's even less probable for "God" to be a sentient, conscious being. Unless he's a bipolar sociopath with homicidal tendencies.

I'm more on the side that there is one. Just not a sentient one. Rather in the more animism sense.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
FFH said:
10 out a 10 odds the earth and everything in it didn't create itself.

Show me the proof otherwise, there is none.

The Lord is our Creator, Redeemer and Savior.
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Of course it didn't create itself. I agree. The earth came about by processes under the right conditions. Your literally standing and walking around on the proof that things come about in this manner. Nothing more. -NM-
 
no_spoon

no_spoon

Member
In my opinion, 100%.

My reason: I believe that our understanding of God is about the same as a dog's understanding of a human (and only that good because of God's help and the thousands of years man has been working on it). I believe most people who do not believe in God do not believe in the portrayal of Him/Her by humans, which is a different matter altogether from God itself. I step back from that, and from the slavish insistence that everything must be proven using the scientific method, and ask myself whether I believe there is something beyond nature which has at times chosen to communicate with humans (and perhaps others) about eternal truth and love. I say yes.

I also realize that some people believe for silly reasons or out of wishful thinking. But truth is not democratic. To quote from the movie Vision Quest: "Can a billion people be wrong?...Yes, frequently". Each person has to decide for themselves regardless of what anyone else thinks.

And while we're on the topic of odds and God existing:
Pascal's Wager - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Cordoba

Cordoba

Well-Known Member
If you look at maths and statistics, Professor Roger Penrose from the UK calculated the odds

Taking the physical variables into account, what is the likelihood of a universe giving us life coming into existence by coincidence? One in billions of billions? Or trillions of trillions of trillions? Or more?


Roger Penrose, a famous British mathematician, wondered about this question and tried to calculate the probability. Including what he considered to be all variables required for human beings to exist and live on a planet such as ours, he computed the probability of this environment occurring among all the possible results of the Big Bang.
According to Penrose, the odds against such an occurrence were on the order of 1010123 to 1

(that is 10^10^123 to 1)

Evidences of Creation.com
 
gnomon

gnomon

Well-Known Member
Sunstone said:
If you were asked to describe your belief or disbelief in god in terms of odds, what odds would you ascribe to the possibility that god exists? One out of ten? Two out of ten? Something else?

Why did you estimate the odds as you did?
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1 out of 0?

Dribble to kabibble?

Aardvark.
 
Reverend Rick

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Sunstone said:
If you were asked to describe your belief or disbelief in god in terms of odds, what odds would you ascribe to the possibility that god exists? One out of ten? Two out of ten? Something else?

Why did you estimate the odds as you did?
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The odds are good that there is no God. The odds are good your home will not be destroyed, yet you buy house insurance but deny God. If you think not having house insurance would be a bummer if something happened, that is nothing compared if you are wrong about God.
 
gnomon

gnomon

Well-Known Member
Reverend Rick said:
The odds are good that there is no God. The odds are good your home will not be destroyed, yet you buy house insurance but deny God. If you think not having house insurance would be a bummer if something happened, that is nothing compared if you are wrong about God.
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But which insurance company to buy from?
 
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