I personally believe it does not matter what policy you have as long as you have one.
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What are the Odds there's a God?
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Everybody needs to believe in something. Myself, I believe I will have another beer.
SpiritualBeing
Active Member
My friend FFH,
Can I say that I applaud your unwavering faith in the Lord, but you must keep in mind that we being Christians should not put the Lord to the test. We must not doubt Him or ask Him for proof.
For, does it not state in the Bible, "Though shalt not put the Lord they God to the test." So, from this we should not try and 'prove' the odds that He exists, but we should be safe in the faith and knowledge that He is watching us from above.
Many blessings,
:candle:
Seven
six plus one
Finally, a belief I can get on board with! And here I am with no frubals left
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
It's not a matter of convincing. I do not believe that god(s) exist, but the possibility does exist. That being said, I am secure in the belief that any of humankind's idea of 'gods' do not exist.
logician
Well-Known Member
This seems to be more of an agnostic stance, i.e. whether some god exists is unknowable.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
It is both atheist and agnostic.
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
There is no such thing as God that exists. How can I know this for certain? Because energy exists. Everything that exists is a form of energy in one way or another. It can neither be created, nor destroyed only change form. Therefore, there can be no "creator". But that is my opinion. The only thing that "God" can possibly be is energy in some form. But that does not have to be called God, it can just simply be called energy. There is no need for "God".
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SpiritualBeing
Active Member
Brother Runewolf, I acn tolerate other peoples opinion. But I will not tolerate someone else stating point blank in the face of, probably, thousands of Christians who post on this forum that there is no God.
Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and yes, they are all entitled to their own religious prefference. But please do not say that God does not exist when there are millions aroud the globe who believe so.
You would not like it if I were to say that there ino such thing as a Universal energy, and then replace you belief with my personal belief in God.
Where did this 'energy' that you talk of come from? It must have been formed in some way. Can I say that even the Red Indians have got a Creation Story and belief in some form of creator.
Blessings,
:candle:
Anti-thesisofreason
Explorer
I understand what your saying and I agree to a point. I usually use the word god to simplify things for other people who don't quite understand my meaning. I prefer terms like THE ALL to describe what I see as Divinity or something equivalent.
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Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
So there are millions around the globe that can say and preach out loud and in public their firm conviction that God exists, but I am not allowed to express my firm conviction that God does not exist? What are you afraid of?
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Numbers mean nothing and attribute nothing towards the existance of God. They could all be wrong. Given the current state of evidence they are all wrong, because all you have is your own personal evidence. I can't see a God nor any evidence of one aside from millions of people who spend their days on their kness. If there is a God, he's very selfish if he needs to be worshipped.
Seven
six plus one
I'm sure they can handle people expressing their disbelief. That's what faith is for.
rojse
RF Addict
Somewhere between one in zero and one in one, but don't try and average that or you might have some trouble.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
X * Y / Z = G
Where X = All the people who have ever existed throughout time on this small rock
Where Y = The average number of times each is correct in their short lives
Where Z = The average number of times each is incorrect in their short lives
Where G = The probability of god existing
So simple. You might want to use a really good calculator though.
Where X = All the people who have ever existed throughout time on this small rock
Where Y = The average number of times each is correct in their short lives
Where Z = The average number of times each is incorrect in their short lives
Where G = The probability of god existing
So simple. You might want to use a really good calculator though.
logician
Well-Known Member
Probabilities are strange animals, the probability that we would have evolved from unicellular life a billion years go may have been much less than winning the powerball, yet here we are. I wonder what the probability is that our species will still be around a million years from now is, or even a hundred thousand years from now. A lot of things could happen.
SpiritualBeing
Active Member
What I am saying is this. I do believe that God exists, and would shout it from the rooftops if I needed to. But I would never state that there are no other Gods. I take into account that other people have their own beliefs, and I would accept that.
I would never say to the face of a Hindu that Krishna does not exist, becuase I accept that they have got their own belief. It's just the way in which you worded your reply that offended me. The fact that you just point blanc stated there was no God.
I would ask you to be a bit more sensitive, that's all. I am sorry if I sounded a bit angered, but I did take some offense, and I apologise for the way in which I replied.
:candle:
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Perhaps im offended by your firm belief in God? Its the same thing, just inverted. No difference champ, its just as easy to be offended by God and religion than to be offended by lack of religion.
I must say i think you're in deep water if you're offended by people challenging your beliefs.
But why should we challenge each others beliefs in the first place?
We all have a right to our beliefs no matter if we are Atheist, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Agnostic, Jewish, Pagan, Gnostic, Deist, Heathen, Taoist, LDS, what ever floats our boats!
We should not have to defend our beliefs!
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Generally speaking yes, i know i don't go out of my way in public. But this is the religious debates forum, so i cant say what i feel rather than holding back and subconsciusly rolling my eyes
Defending ones beliefs makes them stronger. See, we're helping people to learn more about their beliefs by challenging their positions