What do You Think Science is...

[ElishaElijah]

Oh your god, missing link, seriously? That's just hilarious.



What on earth are you talking about? Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life? You should stop making sweeping claims on a topic if you haven't even the most basic understanding of it. Dear oh dear, you'll be saying it's just a theory next. Missing link, good grief, no one who has any grasp of evolution uses that canard anymore.

"missing link, hypothetical extinct creature halfway in the evolutionary line between modern human beings and their anthropoid progenitors. In the latter half of the 19th century, a common misinterpretation of Charles Darwin's work was that humans were lineally descended from existing species of apes."

I think the missing link, Darwin’s evolution is hilarious too but that’s what people thought. Now it’s abiogenesis which is just as ridiculous.

 

[icehorse]

In other words science is fallible and people shouldn’t trust and base their lives off that because they are just that, tested theories that change or are abandoned.

I'm noticing that you're quite comfortable making use of all the science that was required to make your computer and the internet. Cherry picking a bit are we?

 

[rational experiences]

Natural science a humans acceptance first every other observed body is only in concepts as any other one.

An atom just one atom as "the" atom.

Term he being man scientist thinker to destroy said one atom + by add cross.

The term emphasis of "the".

Was his owned man human thinking adult teaching.

The terms he never listened to as self conscious advice.

Realised when he sacrificed natural life on earth.

Is pretty basic human advice self evident.

Science on earth as a human is not any other type of science condition.

Known by humans for humans as humans.

 

[ElishaElijah]

I'm noticing that you're quite comfortable making use of all the science that was required to make your computer and the internet. Cherry picking a bit are we?

No, just an observation of our society and how it uses science improperly. Like Fauci and politicians. You sound different though

 

[metis]

The science said Covid vaccines were going to stop transmission and the spread of Covid and they don’t, that changed very fast.

No, they didn't. Yes, they did say that the more that are vaccinated the better in reducing transmission and infections, but never was it stated anywhere near as absolute as you've stated above.

Darwin's theory of evolution has had big changes over the years.

Which is a positive, not a negative. As new evidence came in. adjustments logically would have to be made.

The signs about global warming and how this land will be under water by such and such Year and that year has come and gone and no change.

Oh, so our NAS, NASA, NOAA, DoD, etc. and the researchers are all wrong?

Again, you allow right-wing wing politics to dominate science and even common sense. Here's reality: Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet (nasa.gov)

 

[ElishaElijah]

No, they didn't. Yes, they did say that the more that are vaccinated the better in reducing transmission and infections, but never was it stated anywhere near as absolute as you've stated above.

Decided to send some Supposed RW stuff your way because the people who contradict themselves won’t admit it.
They DID Say Vaccines Would Stop Virus Spread

 

[metis]

Decided to send some Supposed RW stuff your way because the people who contradict themselves won’t admit it.
They DID Say Vaccines Would Stop Virus Spread

Did you actually listen to what they said in the latter part of the link? No one is their right mind who's in science would ever say such vaccines are 100% in stopping the spread.

Maybe next time actually use a scientific source versus someone's blog.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Did you actually listen to what they said in the latter part of the link? No one is their right mind who's in science would ever say such vaccines are 100% in stopping the spread.

Maybe next time actually use a scientific source versus someone's blog.

It is funny to look at the video of Fauci and Walensky changing their mind on it

 

[metis]

It is funny to look at the video of Fauci and Walensky changing their mind on it

If you used your head maybe you would come to realize that covid-19 was very much a "different animal" than any other previous covid strain, therefore there had to be a learning curve based on on-going research.
One example of this is that many virologists at first felt that transmission was likely more passed through touch, whereas it took a couple of months to find out that air transmission was mostly the culprit. And this is how science works.

So no, what's "funny", but in a very pathetic way, are those who are far more into secular right-wing propaganda than actual science, and this has led to so many unnecessary deaths in this country. If you truly want to be pro-life, then go with what the actual research is showing versus nonsensical and dangerous propaganda.

 

[Sheldon]

I think the missing link, Darwin’s evolution is hilarious too but that’s what people thought. Now it’s abiogenesis which is just as ridiculous.

There is no such thing as a missing link, it was an early misconception of evolution that creationists used as propaganda. There is also no such thing as Darwin's evolution, just species evolution. The level of ignorance that is manifest in such claims is astonishing.

 

[Sheldon]

It is funny to look at the video of Fauci and Walensky changing their mind on it

I can see why someone as closed minded as you would find that odd. However sound reasoning requires an open mind, and the ability to mould your beliefs to the evidence, not the other way around, as you're doing.

 

[ElishaElijah]

If you used your head maybe you would come to realize that covid-19 was very much a "different animal" than any other previous covid strain, therefore there had to be a learning curve based on on-going research.
One example of this is that many virologists at first felt that transmission was likely more passed through touch, whereas it took a couple of months to find out that air transmission was mostly the culprit. And this is how science works.

So no, what's "funny", but in a very pathetic way, are those who are far more into secular right-wing propaganda than actual science, and this has led to so many unnecessary deaths in this country. If you truly want to be pro-life, then go with what the actual research is showing versus nonsensical and dangerous propaganda.

Sorry brother but the justifications are pretty amazing, you were and are all in for the CDC, they were so positive about Covid, enough to sensor experienced doctors who were successful with early treatments even before the vaccines. You
bought into all that vaccine only stuff. The more we find out especially from Israel where they are on the 4th booster and still worse off it looks like. No ones talking about the military problems either with the roll out of vaccines:https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/services/files/FB6DDD42-4755-4FDC-BEE9-50E402911E02

 

[metis]

Sorry brother but the justifications are pretty amazing, you were and are all in for the CDC, they were so positive about Covid, enough to sensor experienced doctors who were successful with early treatments even before the vaccines. You
bought into all that vaccine only stuff.

Bearing false witness is a violation of the Decalogue as I said no such thing. Being a scientist myself, I go with the science which, as I correctly stated, was an on-going process on covid. Nor did I ever by into "all that vaccine stuff", so your dishonesty is nothing short of appalling. Again, have you no shame?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Bearing false witness is a violation of the Decalogue as I said no such thing. Being a scientist myself, I go with the science which, as I correctly stated, was an on-going process on covid. Nor did I ever by into "all that vaccine stuff", so your dishonesty is nothing short of appalling. Again, have you no shame?

I remember talking to you about it early on and you saying you were going by what CDC says so that’s what I’m referencing. So if you believe different great, please clear it up for me and say that vaccine mandates are wrong, should be scrapped.

 

[metis]

I remember talking to you about it early on and you saying you were going by what CDC says so that’s what I’m referencing.

That's relative as to the general media, especially from "news" sources like Fox. I repeatedly have stated that most, but not all, of my scientific sources comes from "Scientific American".

So if you believe different great, please clear it up for me and say that vaccine mandates are wrong, should be scrapped.

What are you talking about? Why would I want more people dead? The more recent research has shown that 97% of the people dying from covid are unvaxed here in the States?

I'm pro-life on this and all things, but you're clearly not.

 

[ElishaElijah]

That's relative as to the general media, especially from "news" sources like Fox. I repeatedly have stated that most, but not all, of my scientific sources comes from "Scientific American".

What are you talking about? Why would I want more people dead? The more recent research has shown that 97% of the people dying from covid are unvaxed here in the States?

I'm pro-life on this and all things, but you're clearly not.

So vaccine mandates or let health decisions be between the individual and their doctors? Choose one or what’s your position? Mine has always been health decisions between the individual and their Doctor.

 

[ElishaElijah]

The more recent research has shown that 97% of the people dying from covid are unvaxed here in the States?

Just curious what age group was that?

 

[Sheldon]

Sorry brother but the justifications are pretty amazing, you were and are all in for the CDC, they were so positive about Covid, enough to sensor experienced doctors who were successful with early treatments even before the vaccines. You
bought into all that vaccine only stuff. The more we find out especially from Israel where they are on the 4th booster and still worse off it looks like. No ones talking about the military problems either with the roll out of vaccines:https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/services/files/FB6DDD42-4755-4FDC-BEE9-50E402911E02

You do know that other countries have had massive, and massively successful vaccination programmes? You seem to be just parroting ignorant anti vaccine propaganda.

 

[ElishaElijah]

You do know that other countries have had massive, and massively successful vaccination programmes? You seem to be just parroting ignorant anti vaccine propaganda.

What’s the propaganda?

 

[Sheldon]

So vaccine mandates or let health decisions be between the individual and their doctors? Choose one or what’s your position? Mine has always been health decisions between the individual and their Doctor.

I have no problem with those ignorant and stupid enough to refuse the vaccine getting their "Darwin award". Sadly this also affects everyone else, while they clog up health services, and ITU spluttering about their freedom to the last. In the UK we have had NHS staff protesting publicly against being forced to vaccinate, fine, don't have it. then the NHS will have to redraft their contract of employment, and they either leave or get vaccinated, as patients who are seriously ill, will be put at risk by these clowns.