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What do You Think Science is...

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Children die??? How? They are low risk of hospitalization and death without vaccines and you want to jab and mask the kids. That’s insanity as far as I’m concerned, dangerous and ineffective. I posted the peer reviewed articles that you say are bunk but are not.

Low risk, is not the same as no risk, that's how they die, obviously, don't you care? If a child can be saved by a vaccine that has been shown to have no adverse side effects why wouldn't we try to vaccinate children for their own protection.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
God says in the Scriptures how to deal with infectious diseases, so maybe read that instead of your other ever changing science sources that have contradicted themselves concerning Covid.

Care to share this biblical medical advice.

You'll forgive me if I'm dubious about your biased bs on science, as you have denied scientific facts, like species evolution on here, and in favour of unevidenced superstition.
 
Low risk, is not the same as no risk, that's how they die, obviously, don't you care? If a child can be saved by a vaccine that has been shown to have no adverse side effects why wouldn't we try to vaccinate children for their own protection.
That would be up to the parents to decide, I hope you’re protected from every risk known to man because of that’s your equivalence and Standard you better live in a bubble and then there still is a risk of you dying so go buy all your protective gear, wear it 24/7 so you’re protected.
And you got a like for that nonsense :confused:
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
That would be up to the parents to decide,

Not necessarily, parents rights do not extend to putting children's lives at risk, there are plenty of legal precedents for courts deciding to ignore the (reckless) wishes of parents, and even to punish them for wilful neglect, even in the US, where the vociferous religious majority often try to ride rough shod over the rights of others, in favour of their own beliefs.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
That’s not true lol
Yes it is, and I asked you a while back to explain why hundreds of millions have been successfully vaccinated without any adverse side effects being recorded, and you failed to offer any explanation. Then of course there are the thorough clinical trials, that also indicated, what the vaccine programmes have now borne out. Where are all these adverse side effects, if literally hundreds of millions have been vaccinated 3 or four times, using different vaccines, why are there none to support your dishonest propaganda?

My 82 year old mother, and niece who has cerebral palsy, have each had 3 vaccinations now, as have I, as has everyone I know, not to mention the hundreds of millions globally, where is this massive avalanche of diverse side effects from all those vaccinations? :rolleyes:
 
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Sheldon

Veteran Member
You posted and article and here is the author and date:
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on August 25, 2020
What’s next Bigfoot?:D

"Only one observational study has directly analyzed the impact of mask use in the community on COVID-19 transmission. The study looked at the reduction of secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in Beijing households by face mask use (10). It found that face masks were 79% effective in preventing transmission, if they were used by all household members prior to symptoms occurring."

"The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough?"


"Prior to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, the efficacy of community mask wearing to reduce the spread of respiratory infections was controversial because there were no solid relevant data to support their use. During the pandemic, the scientific evidence has increased. Compelling data now demonstrate that community mask wearing is an effective nonpharmacologic intervention to reduce the spread of this infection, especially as source control to prevent spread from infected persons, but also as protection to reduce wearers’ exposure to infection."

"The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that wearing a mask reduced transmissions of COVID-19. Here are the studies that prove it."

Now of course, since a mask can't harm anyone, I'd love to hear the superstitious guff espoused to take the reckless and selfish position of not wearing one. Where the harm after all, even if the evidence were not again overwhelmingly against the idiocy of the superstitious, Hell bent on their Darwin award.
 
"Only one observational study has directly analyzed the impact of mask use in the community on COVID-19 transmission. The study looked at the reduction of secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in Beijing households by face mask use (10). It found that face masks were 79% effective in preventing transmission, if they were used by all household members prior to symptoms occurring."

"The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough?"


"Prior to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, the efficacy of community mask wearing to reduce the spread of respiratory infections was controversial because there were no solid relevant data to support their use. During the pandemic, the scientific evidence has increased. Compelling data now demonstrate that community mask wearing is an effective nonpharmacologic intervention to reduce the spread of this infection, especially as source control to prevent spread from infected persons, but also as protection to reduce wearers’ exposure to infection."

"The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that wearing a mask reduced transmissions of COVID-19. Here are the studies that prove it."

Now of course, since a mask can't harm anyone, I'd love to hear the superstitious guff espoused to take the reckless and selfish position of not wearing one. Where the harm after all, even if the evidence were not again overwhelmingly against the idiocy of the superstitious, Hell bent on their Darwin award.
Already gave you a bunch of studies as to why they didn’t make much of a difference, so nice try on your studies and perspective but if you observed children wearing masks, what type, just children activities in general, you can see how faulty your reasoning is and also why the restrictions are being lifted now, so when are you going to progress cause you’re living in the past. You still wearing a mask?
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Already gave you a bunch of studies as to why they didn’t make much of a difference, so nice try on your studies

I've not seen any, only one article from a senator making subjective claims, and based on un-peer reviewed material, that it took just seconds online to realise has been widely discredited by proper science.

You still wearing a mask?

You know that wearing a mask is largely to protect others right? I wear a mask when I am in an enclosed indoor area, and there is a risk I will pass on an infection I might have contracted. As that is the decent and responsible thing to do, even though as of December, I am triple vaccinated.

The supermarkets here still require face coverings unless medically exempt. I don't get all precious about it, it's not like wearing a mask is a massive chore, or getting vaccinated come to that, my 82 year old mother managed to queue for almost 40 minutes for her last booster, but you clearly don't care, I guess that attitude goes some way to explaining the appalling death rate in parts of the US.

"The vaccine deployment in December 2020 signalled a turning point in the COVID-19 pandemic. By the end of May 2021, 40% of the U.S. population was fully vaccinated. But as vaccination rates lagged over the summer, new surges of COVID-19 came, including Delta in the summer of 2021, and now the Omicron variant, which comprises the majority of cases in the U.S.Researchers around the world have reported that Omicron is more transmissible than Delta, making breakthrough and repeat infections more likely. Early research suggests this strain may cause less severe illness than Delta and the original virus, however, health officials have warned an Omicron-driven surge could still increase hospitalization and death rates especially in areas with less vaccinated populations."

How do death rates from COVID-19 differ between people who are vaccinated and those who are not?
 
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"Only one observational study has directly analyzed the impact of mask use in the community on COVID-19 transmission. The study looked at the reduction of secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in Beijing households by face mask use (10). It found that face masks were 79% effective in preventing transmission, if they were used by all household members prior to symptoms occurring."

"The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic, and yet the debate trundles on. How much evidence is enough?"


"Prior to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, the efficacy of community mask wearing to reduce the spread of respiratory infections was controversial because there were no solid relevant data to support their use. During the pandemic, the scientific evidence has increased. Compelling data now demonstrate that community mask wearing is an effective nonpharmacologic intervention to reduce the spread of this infection, especially as source control to prevent spread from infected persons, but also as protection to reduce wearers’ exposure to infection."

"The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that wearing a mask reduced transmissions of COVID-19. Here are the studies that prove it."

Now of course, since a mask can't harm anyone, I'd love to hear the superstitious guff espoused to take the reckless and selfish position of not wearing one. Where the harm after all, even if the evidence were not again overwhelmingly against the idiocy of the superstitious, Hell bent on their Darwin award.
You’re not serious with this mask study are you? You obviously didn’t read it otherwise you wouldn’t post it. They didn’t even know what type mask was used, that should tell you something.
 
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The supermarkets here still require face coverings unless medically exempt. I don't get all precious about it, it's not like wearing a mask is a massive chore, or getting vaccinated come to that, my 82 year old mother managed to queue for almost 40 minutes for her last booster, but you clearly don't care, I guess that attitude goes some way to explaining the appalling death rate in parts of the US.
Where we live there are no mandates, some people get vaccinated some don’t. Some people wear masks some don’t. Hospitals aren’t packed full of Covid patients and we all get along. Nice and peaceful here.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Science the topic medical.

What is medical science the status.

Humans ability to cause create the problem human inability to accept natural effects of change to life.

As humans die naturally always.

Are you a human better than a God by science terms of you claim God gave it to you then you best God by a vaccination is the real question.

A human shouldn't be sick in the first instance ignored. As memory said once we never were sick.

Our bodies attacked by burning gases that entered our oxygenated water changed our biology.

As it is gases that were hot that owned filling in empty space first as heavens history. We don't live in hot water is the advice. What hot gases do to cold water.

Bodies are owned exact in biology by its natural type. Our bodies survive. Medical science says it introduces support for survival yet always introduce change itself.

Natural worked mutually as natural is mutual already.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
What our human father a man taught my life.

First human parents two for any one self human. We are all one human.

First parents same two parents were everywhere as same multiple parents not ours.

Theme is communicated by bible quotes preached constantly now Ai data constant as if everyone owned the exact same just two parents.

Fake advice.

Known teaching if I get groups humans to read my information it gets AI recorded. Hence I should affect humans reading and lying in psyche. Baha'i advice about a loving mind family United community taught.

Reason for preaching known.

Brother memories warped thinks he is a human God memory as multiple same one parent. He is possessed by two parents one self. Thinks self especial. As natural memory is first multiple one parents.

When I say you don't own our parents in science he already says as a scientist he owns the first two parents. As a human.

What coercive mind maths separation warped his thinking memories. He personally by machine constants introduced interference.

Mass by maths separated in thesis only one body mass as gas.

Earth a solid is not a gas is not his first answer.

He then gains gas to invent create cause gases presence. Not first ever.

Once the teaching said you science man cannot contain the cup of Christ if you try you'll die by nuclear event.

Modern words by introduced AI modern man's bible study computer says it differently and closer to modern man's science advice. Computer by AI updated bible modern man's thinking.

What it cannot teach is how a humans innate aware bio consciousness lies.

Life styles civilization money trade are human only choices as is greed. In a humans living life choice only.

Nature balanced owned none of your introduced interferences.

Children might be pleading today for a future life. It is his interfered man's consciousness that already told you by his physical actions against children what his science mind thinks of you.

We are living his answers to his family who need unification in humanity against his expressed choices in every families society.

Most of us in family owned unity want family owned unity.

We can make earths life abundant...natural...supplies for everyone in a healthy natural loving environment where everyone would love assisting a brother or sisters life rebalancing again.

If you still own use of a natural human mind. And are not machine mind affected. By his thesis to separate a body from mass when mass gas water owned body of infinite space plane fill in.

Only around earth.

His mind conscious says infinite is water gas forever.

In real stretched infinite plane space its non earth space and it's not. Present.

As no man is God no man is a machine whose body came out of gods earth also.

Consciousness in life human is first. Lies about its natural state in scientific thesis.

If men said infinite resource hence I cannot run out of it ....I cannot change it. Yet he physically manually burns up uses energy by Multi machines and he lies. He claims he cannot remove infinite.

Yet he burns up uses makes energy as energy disappeared energy.

In living heavens he does remove mass gas presence yet it remains same gas as it is present as mass.

He is lying. Pretty basic we know he lies.

He was warned his conscious life is not a thesis about energy.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If consciousness says it cannot remove infinite it is correct. He can however increase space via invention by consuming energy mass.

He then concludes hence I am inventing my infinite resource myself claiming infinite is his resource.

Infinite around earth filled. Christ.

He already proved his infinite gas water energy life gets removed sacrificed as science introduced anti Christ.

Is a known direct science lie. Just a human first already proven wrong in science. As Christ should never be removed as evolution placed it's mass present only.

Our human info is life is within earth heavens space plane filled in only.

As earth travels through space it can enter heated irradiated space by star fall space that removes Christ heavens body.

As we cannot stop earths sun cycle

Consuming is the law of a sun. No scientist controls a sun consuming energy in space.

Obvious you lie.
 
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